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But the rpm package need adoption and refers users to alien, but the alien package is orphaned.
hah, looking at wikpedia it seems LSB support have been dropped by Ubuntu and Debian in November 2015.
I have been using Debian on and off since the late 90s, including some time creating packages. It was wonderful to be able to install a recent, working version of pretty much anything you wanted for the vast majority of that time. More recently, so many things I want to use are not available as a reasonably up-to-date package. Some examples are hugo and eclipse, where the versions provided are unusably ancient. https…
I have been using Debian on and off since the late 90s, including some time creating packages. It was wonderful to be able to install a recent, working version of pretty much anything you wanted for the vast majority of that time. More recently, so many things I want to use are not available as a reasonably up-to-date package. Some examples are hugo and eclipse, where the versions provided are unusably ancient. https…
I have been using Debian on and off since the late 90s, including some time creating packages. It was wonderful to be able to install a recent, working version of pretty much anything you wanted for the vast majority of that time. More recently, so many things I want to use are not available as a reasonably up-to-date package. Some examples are hugo and eclipse, where the versions provided are unusably ancient. https…
I think the future is probably something more NixOS-like. Now, personally, I've tried it and found it a bit wanting UX-wise (and for really niche stuff), but for providing cutting edge and the ability to roll back safely I don't think it can be beaten. If you have databases, etc. that might need to be rolled back things get more complicated, ofc. Right now, I'm running Arch Linux with a small smattering of self-compi…
If you sort by Installs this is kind of disturbing. A lot of well known packages (Apache2 / OpenSSL / LibreOffice etc.) have no owner? https://wnpp.debian.net/?sort=installs%2Fdesc&page=1
I have been using Debian on and off since the late 90s, including some time creating packages. It was wonderful to be able to install a recent, working version of pretty much anything you wanted for the vast majority of that time. More recently, so many things I want to use are not available as a reasonably up-to-date package. Some examples are hugo and eclipse, where the versions provided are unusably ancient. https…
Their packages repo has a “latest” which is very up to date. One can also use ports for more control and custom options etc
If you sort by Installs this is kind of disturbing. A lot of well known packages (Apache2 / OpenSSL / LibreOffice etc.) have no owner? https://wnpp.debian.net/?sort=installs%2Fdesc&page=1
Isn't it worrisome that something like openssl is listed as having no owner? Wouldn't a sneaky patch in something as low-level and widely-used as that have devastating consequences? Is there another Linux distro that gets multiple eyeballs on (core) package changes and proper security reviews that you folks would recommend for daily driver?
I have been using Debian on and off since the late 90s, including some time creating packages. It was wonderful to be able to install a recent, working version of pretty much anything you wanted for the vast majority of that time. More recently, so many things I want to use are not available as a reasonably up-to-date package. Some examples are hugo and eclipse, where the versions provided are unusably ancient. https…
After using Ubuntu for over a decade, I switched to Arch Linux. If you exclude the duplicated architecture packages in the Ubuntu repos and include the community-maintained packages, Arch has more packages new packages seem to commonly available within 24 hours of an upstream release. For example, I use some utilities based on "rofi". A search for Ubuntu packages containing "rofi-" contains just no results, but a sea…
Arch Linux is just an entirely different thing compared to Ubuntu. I'd like someone who isn't me to make sure stuff works. Only very rarely will I be bothered to do actual work to upgrade to a new breaking version on my daily driver. Randomly breaking my shit on a Tuesday will make me install something more stable. On the rare occasion that I'd like to try something unstable, I can usually find a PPA or something. I don't like edges that make me bleed on my base OS.
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I think the future is probably something more NixOS-like. Now, personally, I've tried it and found it a bit wanting UX-wise (and for really niche stuff), but for providing cutting edge and the ability to roll back safely I don't think it can be beaten. If you have databases, etc. that might need to be rolled back things get more complicated, ofc. Right now, I'm running Arch Linux with a small smattering of self-compi…
With zfs and boot environments the whole rollback issue is solved. No need for nixos for that.
EDIT: Sorry, I feel I didn't explain this very well. The main point is: You can have multiple versions of all the software on your system, including stuff like PostgreSQL. That's actually very powerful.
Another potential problem is the licensing and root-on-ZFS.
Personally, I'm really looking forward to an in-upstream-kernel FS like bcachefs. (I'm actually a fan of ZFS, we use it on our servers, etc. I still feel a bit uneasy about the licensing issues and the fact that it's not in-kernel.)