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Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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I find many many websites are broken on firefox.

i don't find that, but maybe i am not using the same websites. can you give some examples?

I can't give you any specific examples, but as a Firefox user, I can tell you that many forms, especially e-commerce checkouts forms, are slightly broken in Firefox. They are often broken enough that you must switch to Chrome to submit a payment.

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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I use Firefox containers with a work and a personal container. Each container can stay logged into separate google accounts, github accounts, etc. and keep them separated. It works pretty well. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

I started using this, but my impression of the usability is poor. E.g. I use GitHub both personally and for work, on the one hand containers are awesome because it handles the "staying logged in" really well, but on the other hand opening tabs and links is a nightmare that ends up with me duplicating every tab in the right container. I'd love it if I could say "this window is my work window, all tabs should open in w…

I'm using the Simple Tab Groups plugin [0]; you can have two separate windows, each with a different group selected, and you can associate a group with a container. Alternatively, I prefer having only one window, and switch between the groups as needed.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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There are people out there that only have one Google account and don't care too much about data collection, but for the rest of us, there is no reason that bookmarks should be tied to Gmail, Google Analytics, and YouTube. This, and the lack of temporary container browsing makes Chrome a pretty tough sell for power users. > Is it time to say goodbye to Chrome in favor of Brave, Vivaldi, etc. ? Yes.

I gave up. I really did try. I did firefox. I did containers. I had no script. I had adblock. You name it. My browsing experience and pleasure of using the internet significantly improved because I didn't need to screw around with some setting somewhere to the site to work. You know what? They won. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it. I really wish we could but i just can't stand having to increase the mai…

After many years of Chrome, then Brave, I've been on Firefox (M1 Mac) for a few months now with not a single issue. If you don't sign into Google properties then there's no problem. If you do then there is.

The thing to dump is not Chrome, but Google (ideally both but ymmv).

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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This isn't a bug, this is an explicit decision they made. It caused a bit of a stir at the time, but they went through with the change anyways. Personally for me it was the last straw, and I've since moved to Firefox.

Honestly for the average user it makes perfect sense. They said that they found the average user did not understand the difference between logging out of chrome and logging out of google so they would accidentally leave one logged in. If you don’t trust google with your data then you shouldn’t use chrome at all.

I wonder id these layers of logins and fallbacks are the initial intention to improve user tracking. Does chrome os login serve as another layer?

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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This isn't a bug, this is an explicit decision they made. It caused a bit of a stir at the time, but they went through with the change anyways. Personally for me it was the last straw, and I've since moved to Firefox.

I also moved away from Chrome around that time

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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i don't find that, but maybe i am not using the same websites. can you give some examples?

I can't give you any specific examples, but as a Firefox user, I can tell you that many forms, especially e-commerce checkouts forms, are slightly broken in Firefox. They are often broken enough that you must switch to Chrome to submit a payment.

This really surprises me. I've used Firefox exclusively for years and have never not been able to complete an action because of it (unless it was my own fault - disabling required third party scripts, etc). Why can't you give examples - is it just memory, or something else?

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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Firefox profiles is an option, if you prefer to split accounts into different windows. I use Firefox container tabs (for GitHub specifically) instead. It's lighter-weight and the UI is better. Container tabs are color-coded, so the different accounts are easy to distinguish. Or you could use container tabs in multiple Firefox windows under a single Firefox profile.

the problem is to make sure that new tabs are opened in the right container. i had this experience as well that often the wrong container was picked. but maybe i am using the wrong workflow

I haven't seen that issue, but my use cases are pretty simple:

When I need to open a GitHub tab for my organization admin account, I open a new tab in my "work/admin" container first, then nav to GitHub. Child tabs are opened in the same container. This is 99% of my usage.

Following an incidental link from elsewhere to GitHub will open in the default account/primary container (or "no container"). Or, you can right-click and select "Open in New Container Tab > Container X" if you are aware of the need to switch accounts ahead of time...(and if you are not, there's "Reopen in Container > Container X").

I don't use the multiple-windows/multiple-containers model. There might be an extension for "open all tabs in this window in container X" though.

I use Profiles and multiple windows when the separation is important, and Containers in the same window when the separation is merely convenient.

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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This isn't a bug, this is an explicit decision they made. It caused a bit of a stir at the time, but they went through with the change anyways. Personally for me it was the last straw, and I've since moved to Firefox.

> This isn't a bug, this is an explicit decision they made. It caused a bit of a stir at the time, but they went through with the change anyways.

> Personally for me it was the last straw, and I've since moved to Firefox.

Your security currently suffers if you choose Firefox over a Chromium variant.

This feels as shitty for me to write as it will to read.

Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser

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Honestly for the average user it makes perfect sense. They said that they found the average user did not understand the difference between logging out of chrome and logging out of google so they would accidentally leave one logged in. If you don’t trust google with your data then you shouldn’t use chrome at all.

I wonder id these layers of logins and fallbacks are the initial intention to improve user tracking. Does chrome os login serve as another layer?

100%.

That's one of the biggest complaints about ChromeOS, despite its excellent security paradigm compared to standard desktop setups: the user auth/activity pings it sends Google.

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