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I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

m.nautil.us

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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More lives have been destroyed by alcohol than have ever even tried heroin. What you are describing sounds no different than an alcoholic. The whole point of this article, and Dr. Hart's research in general, is that it's not ok to demonize some drugs over others just because they are culturally accepted. Addiction is addiction, and there's zero evidence to support the fact that heroin is any more addictive or dangero…

Sure, I also think the way alcohol is treated is problematic too! This article was about Heroin, though. (Alcohol) prohibition ended, not because people changed their minds about alcohol being problematic, but because it failed, basically, and I think such an arrangement is politically unpalatable in today's world. I think that Dr Hart makes a lot of good points, but he also makes some dubious ones. For example, his…

>Sure, I also think the way alcohol is treated is problematic too! This article was about Heroin, though.

It really isn't though. Hart's entire thesis is that drugs like heroin are no different than alcohol. The economic damage and emotional brainwashing from 50 years of the racialized war on drugs has ingrained to people's minds that they are somehow different, but they objectively are not. And if we live in a society where it is socially acceptable to be a recreational alcohol user, there is simply no reason other than racism or classism to think that recreational heroin use is not an equally valid way to destress.

>To be honest, I bet my brother in law would have said the same thing about himself -- he is "fulfilling all of his obligations", after all! He did work, aside from periods when he was homeless/unable to hold down steady work/keep himself from spending literally all of his income on drugs. But, the last few years, he has been working and had an apartment, all while using.

And again, this is literally no different from an alcoholic. The entire point is that the substance is not the issue. Addiction is the issue. And addiction stems from factors that are entirely unrelated to the substance itself. Focusing on the substance is like focusing on cheeseburgers as the cause of obesity in our society; it is a profoundly more complex issue than that, and banning cheeseburgers or putting people in jail for eating cheeseburgers will not solve it.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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"... how weak the beer is" Funny, I've never heard someone take a jab at the strength of American beer. I'm curious what is the ABV of a normal beer you're used to in the UK? The 'commercial grade' American domestics tend to be about 5% maybe 4.5%. In the last decade though, 'craft'/ micro breweries have exploded so it's very easy to find stronger at any bar. In almost any convenience/ grocery store, there are plenty…

Its more a comment on how popular your light beers are, and they seem to be in the low 4% range. We also say your cars can't go around turns, don't take it too literally.

You’re right I took it too literally :) All that light beer crap is like water!

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Anybody who thinks this harm reduction strategy works should go visit cities that have employed it for years like Vancouver, Canada where there are legal shooting galleries everywhere, no arrests for personal amounts, and prescribed heroin that thousands of drug addicts have been on for 10 years now and the problem gets worse everyday. There used to just be a contained area of people passed out all over the street no…

I live in Europe where drugs are legalized. Definetly it doesn't mean anti social behavior is "legalized" what often at least seems the case with Nort American progressive cities. People are treated as adults and are expected to act like ones.

Drugs most definitely aren't legalized in Europe.

Also, Europe is a collection of sovereign countries, each of whom has their own drug policies.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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I live in Europe where drugs are legalized. Definetly it doesn't mean anti social behavior is "legalized" what often at least seems the case with Nort American progressive cities. People are treated as adults and are expected to act like ones.

Drugs most definitely aren't legalized in Europe. Also, Europe is a collection of sovereign countries, each of whom has their own drug policies.

Well obviously I meant I live IN A place in Europe. And yes decriminialized is the correct term but my point still stands.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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I can barely control my use of caffeine. Without it, I turn into a raging psychopath. And I'm consuming more and more of it all the time. Heroin terrifies me.

Caffeine, or coffee? They are very different substances: one is a pure alkaloid with well-defined effects, the other is a concoction of hundreds, possibly thousands of active ingredients. Most relevantly, coffee contains a relatively large amount of Harmala alkaloids, which are a family of beta-carboline monoamine oxidase inhibitors commonly found in Ayahuasca brews (and named after one of its ingredients, Penganum h…

I'm down to just black tea, but a lot of it. Occasional cola as well.

Honestly, I need to ween myself back a bit.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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The dangers of the drug mostly come from its legal status and that it is being adulterated with various substances in the unregulated market. People also don't get a leaflet that they can consult on the strength or dosage so often they overdose. Medical grade heroin is not as dangerous as people supporting prohibition would like it to be. You can take clean heroin for decades and be perfectly fine. This would rather…

I would say the main danger is the crippling physical addiction (as well as psychological, but that is harder to quantify) it causes in a substantial amount of users.

Yes, the downside is that you have to take it every so often, but after a while it becomes a second nature so you won't be even notice apart from occasional situations where "medication" is not possible.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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I wish I’d see more discussion and analysis like this over the recreational use of anabolic steroids (read: not for professional sports or contests, but rather for physical appearance). You want to talk about some shit that gets demonized for no reason? Testosterone replacement therapy is legal, but if you decide that you want to use an extra 100mg, suddenly it’s a criminal offense and you are a bad person. For what?…

slightly OT, but in what situations can anabolic steroids be used recreationally?

For what I'd suggest is 90% or more of their use case, which is using them to improve muscle mass, strength, or appearance, for your typical gym goer or fitness enthusiast.

When you use the term "recreationally", my assumption is that you are asking about how to use these drugs in contrast to using them in an "addicted" state. Since I am very interested in fitness and physical culture, my .02 is that recreational use is anything where you are not endangering your short term health, endangering anyone else's health or well being, you can afford and understand everything you are using and what side effects and ancillaries you would need to take, and you are taking an amount of drugs that are "way less" than what would be necessary to compete at the Mr.Olympia.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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> you're not endangering anyones life by using heroin unless you're causing drug-related crimes Are you saying heroin causes people to commit crime? > This is quite a contradiction by equavalency. I thought he meant it similarly. We created the war on drugs from this logic, yet do not have a war on people not wearing masks. You're right in that mask wearing is a tricky situation, and I think so is hard drug usage. He…

>I thought he meant it similarly. There was no ambiguity, from the article "Your birthright to use drugs is part of the pursuit of happiness, you write." The author consideres it a birthright to use drugs irrespective of the consequences drugs have for a percentage of the population. To wear or not to wear masks however is "... potentially impacting the rights of other people." which is why I think its a slight contr…

I'm not sure I follow you.

The way I read the author is that they argue that it's our birthright to do whatever we want, as long as it doesn't interfere with the same right of others to do whatever they want.

So with that logic, it would need to be that one's use of drugs impacted another's persons rights for it to be regulated, similar to how cigarettes smoking isn't allowed everywhere, because it impacts others around, so too is not wearing a mask when around others during a global pandemic. But it doesn't justify why lots of drugs are banned, when they only affect the user and not others.

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