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This is super cool! I definitely could have used this when I found a photo of a split keyboard on aliexpress and it turned out to be the redox manuform. Relatedly, this site is missing the redox manuform
I need the full keyboard. All of it and accessibility of (some) keys to both hands would be great.
Most split keyboard and minimal keyboards make no sense anyway outside English environments.
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I forgot that I use Twitter sometimes and have pictures of another Moonlander experiment: mounting it to my chair! https://twitter.com/petersergeant/status/1356057651931537408 I did eventually get parts for both sides. One of the flexible arm clamp tripod mount thingies was not stiff enough to hold the keyboard up, but the other one was great. Since they were both the same part from the same order... it's kind of a c…
I tried mounting my Ergodox EZ to my chair like you (almost exactly too: 3D printed mount + gorillapod). I found the TRRS cable between the halves to be very very annoying to get in and out of the chair. How did you solve that problem? I once tripped and broke the mount (PLA is brittle) when I went to answer my intercom.
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On my keyboard, B is exactly equidistant between F and J so I couldn't even tell you which finger is correct for it. I wonder how it was decided which side it should go on in a split keyboard?
> On my keyboard, B is exactly equidistant between F and J so I couldn't even tell you which finger is correct for it. It's not about distance but about logic. If the right index finger does y,h,n and u,j,m then the left index finger does r,f,v and t,g,b. Otherwise your left index only does five letters while your right index does 7. Depending on how "badly" a staggered keyboard is staggered, some keys can be closer…
If they and a majority of their customers learned to type Z with the left little finger, X with the ring finger, etc., that does not magically make that a better way to type than typing Z with the ring finger and X with the middle one.
Quite the contrary: If you bring your hands together naturally in front of you, they form an inverted V. In order to type the bottom row with the little finger on Z, you have to cock your wrist significantly, which is clearly worse from an ergonomics perspective.
If you bring your hands together like hands naturally come together, on the type of staggered keyboard virtually everyone learns to type on, an ortholinear one with be entirely wrong for you on the whole bottom row.
Designing around bad training may be a type of "knowing what they're doing," but it doesn't make it "correct," or even better.
All would be fine for me if MS would fully integrate key rebindings. No chance in my business environment to install extra software. I could balance the use of both hands better if I can have the return key also on the left side or rebind R shift as left mouse click or whatever... I need the full keyboard. All of it and accessibility of (some) keys to both hands would be great. Most split keyboard and minimal keyboar…
My personal must-haves for a split keyboard:
- Concave/curved design.
- Thumb clusters.
- Vertical arranged key columns.
- Palm support.
- Fully customizable layout.
- Mechanical switches or anything similar with proper feedback for better typing, and also decent travel distance so it doesn't feel that you're knocking your fingertips on hard plastic all the time.
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What you need, and I’m pretty sure this is a serious suggestion, is a pair of identical 60% keyboards. It might just work wonderfully.
I wish this worked. I tried it. The problem is pressing shift only modifies the keyboard that it is pressed on.
I'm using one "TKL" Apple USB keyboard per hand when I feel like opening my shoulders a bit. Took me all of two minutes to get used to, at a fraction of the cost for enthusiast keyboards. I wonder if there are any ergonomic advantages I'm missing out on.
(Karabiner Elements is a great tool, anyway; I've been using it for a long time to map Caps Lock to something useful for programming.)
All would be fine for me if MS would fully integrate key rebindings. No chance in my business environment to install extra software. I could balance the use of both hands better if I can have the return key also on the left side or rebind R shift as left mouse click or whatever... I need the full keyboard. All of it and accessibility of (some) keys to both hands would be great. Most split keyboard and minimal keyboar…
Not sure what you mean by this. I've been using an Ergodox EZ for almost 2 years and I don't live in an English-speaking country. It's no different from using the US-INTL layout in any other keyboard.
I am up past my bedtime typing on hacker news just to mega-disagree about the goldtouch keyboard, of which I own multiple and have used exclusively for over 10 years to manage serious RSI which has left me debilitated at times and will probably never resolve fully. The goldtouch is a fantastic ergonomic keyboard. I’m sure others are just as good or better and didn’t object to the authors criticisms until s/he suggest…
But the goldtouch involves So. Much. Chording. I have the v1, which makes it worse. The windows key is way the fuck to the left, making constant stretches necessary. Plus the fact that the thumb keys can only press space is a major ergonomic negative. It's also a membrane keyboard, meaning bottoming out all the time is required.
It's a decent keyboard, and I'm glad it works well for you, but it isn't really god's gift to humanity either.