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Why Birds Don’t Get Cold Feet

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Re: Why Birds Don’t Get Cold Feet

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Wool my friends. It is the only way.

but wool is so itchy and scratchy, isn't it?

"Wool" is a very broad category that pretty much means "material made out of some kind of animal hair". And since there's quite a few animals with hair, there's quite a few types of wool. I suggest trying high quality cashmere (note: cheap cashmere is typically mixed with other types of wool).

Re: Why Birds Don’t Get Cold Feet

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Wool my friends. It is the only way.

but wool is so itchy and scratchy, isn't it?

I thought so too. At some point, I realized I'm allergic to wool and that was why it made me itch.

FWIW.

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This doesn’t explain why the interstitial fluids and cells themselves in a birds feet avoid freezing. Presumably, either their feet can simply be maintained at slightly above freezing or they use some form of antifreeze. Does anyone know?

I'm not sure if I can trust a random article on the internet but I do (mostly) trust my eyes. I have lots of small bird-feet-tracks outside my window where they have melted the snow. So clearly either they are not freezing because they are warm or they are covered in anti-freeze.

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I feel like I’ve read articles about birds feet not getting cold from four different sources (Reddit, YT, Twitter and now HN) in the past week. Why is everyone suddenly so interested in birds?

IDK but I picked up one of my hen this morning and thought "Wow, her feet are COLD." Bird feet may not normally get frostbite or whatever, but they certainly do get cold.

That's a feature, not a bug. It prevents losing energy.

Re: Why Birds Don’t Get Cold Feet

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This is anecdata. I am also not a bird. Inspired by Wim Hof, I've started doing short barefoot snow walks. Within days, even between multiple walks on the same day, my feet became more cold-tolerant. They now recover from the cold faster, stay warm in the snow longer, and when I'm indoors, my feet are no longer cold without socks. My feet used to be cold to the touch and feel cold subjectively without socks.

I don't have a proper opinion on Wim Hof and his methods. On one side, he seems a nice, genuine person. On the other, I've read things that didn't necessarily add credibility to his methods. Plus, his appearance on Gwyneth Paltrow's show (considered by many non scientific) was a bit of a downer for me.

One can spend all of eternity forming a "proper opinion", based on third-party information ten times removed, and end up having not moved an inch... -or- actually take a leap of faith and try it, and have a real first-hand experience and information knowledge.

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Interesting. From my experience, coldness of feet is correlated with blood circulation. There are periods when my feet are cold (going together with the restless legs syndrome at night), and I think it goes away when circulation improves. My theory is that exposing feet to elements is another trick to improve blood flow to them, I’ve been meaning to try that.

If you don't have any snow to walk through, just give 'em an ice water dip. You can do your whole body, too, with similar benefits. It's uncomfortable, but what isn't... In my experience, and I've not found any studies to support this, restless legs correlates with oxygen levels vs carbon monoxide and/or carbon dioxide levels. Check your air.

It’s also highly correlated to issues with dopamine, which is why it’s an extremely strong symptom in opioid withdrawal

Re: Why Birds Don’t Get Cold Feet

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This is anecdata. I am also not a bird. Inspired by Wim Hof, I've started doing short barefoot snow walks. Within days, even between multiple walks on the same day, my feet became more cold-tolerant. They now recover from the cold faster, stay warm in the snow longer, and when I'm indoors, my feet are no longer cold without socks. My feet used to be cold to the touch and feel cold subjectively without socks.

Acclimatisation is real. I've noticed a trend in the UK over the past 20 years or so. Previously many people, like my parents, used the central heating minimally. It would come on in the morning just to take the edge off in the winter. But that was pretty much it. Nowadays people are trying to keep their house the exact same temperature year round. That means it's warm in the winter and (if you have ac) cold in the s…

The problem with that is that modern houses are very well insulated and unfortunately the insulation also traps moisture. If it gets too cold water condensates in the walls and mould can form. 17° in my experience is too cold and poses a risk.

Re: Why Birds Don’t Get Cold Feet

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This is anecdata. I am also not a bird. Inspired by Wim Hof, I've started doing short barefoot snow walks. Within days, even between multiple walks on the same day, my feet became more cold-tolerant. They now recover from the cold faster, stay warm in the snow longer, and when I'm indoors, my feet are no longer cold without socks. My feet used to be cold to the touch and feel cold subjectively without socks.

I don't have a proper opinion on Wim Hof and his methods. On one side, he seems a nice, genuine person. On the other, I've read things that didn't necessarily add credibility to his methods. Plus, his appearance on Gwyneth Paltrow's show (considered by many non scientific) was a bit of a downer for me.

If you see him speak in person, like in a documentary, he always seem high on adrenaline. Don’t know whether thats a good or bad thing.

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HVAC systems. The outgoing air goes through a heat exchanger to transfer heat to the colder incoming air.

As far as I know, most HRVs are cross-current. I don’t know why.

Avoiding condensation?

Rotating disk heat recovery devices can also recover humidity.

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Warm bloodedness (endothermy) would not be possible without countercurrent exchange in nasal passages. We have intricate bones there that capture heat and humidity in exhaled gas, then transfer it back to incoming air on the next breath. Without this the energy cost would be prohibitive. Structures like these in fossils are used as markers of the evolution of endothermy in ancestors of mammals and birds.
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