You should consider leaving Gmail instead. I have been migrated most of my stuff away from Gmail to Fastmail. What I like about Fastmail is that its custom domain and IMAP support is first-class instead of an afterthought, it doesn't mine my email for purchases/trips/other, its web UI really is better, and I don't worry about my account being cancelled with no recourse. (No association, just a happily paying customer).
Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
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Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
#52I use Firefox containers with a work and a personal container. Each container can stay logged into separate google accounts, github accounts, etc. and keep them separated. It works pretty well. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
Does anyone know if the privacy.firstparty.isolate setting is any less effective than containers? It certainly is easier to use, since you don’t have to make choices about what goes in each container.
Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
#53There are people out there that only have one Google account and don't care too much about data collection, but for the rest of us, there is no reason that bookmarks should be tied to Gmail, Google Analytics, and YouTube. This, and the lack of temporary container browsing makes Chrome a pretty tough sell for power users. > Is it time to say goodbye to Chrome in favor of Brave, Vivaldi, etc. ? Yes.
I gave up. I really did try. I did firefox. I did containers. I had no script. I had adblock. You name it. My browsing experience and pleasure of using the internet significantly improved because I didn't need to screw around with some setting somewhere to the site to work. You know what? They won. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it. I really wish we could but i just can't stand having to increase the mai…
That’s not really a fair comparison. Firefox with default settings + ublock works fine just about everywhere.
Edit: also, leaving incognito on all the time still doesn’t break much of anything, and gives most of the privacy benefits of the other stuff you mentioned.
Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
#54This isn't a bug, this is an explicit decision they made. It caused a bit of a stir at the time, but they went through with the change anyways. Personally for me it was the last straw, and I've since moved to Firefox.
I find many many websites are broken on firefox.
So far the only thing that I've found to be broken is Google's Slideshow presentation mode.
Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
#55I've been using a separate browser for sites that I log into -- like Gmail, Twitter, etc.
It's not foolproof, but it separates at least some of my identity from my browsing history.
Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
#56look. I have been using an internet browser since 2005. Each an every day. Then since 2008, i have used an iphone and for the past 4 years used an android because i couldnt afford apple. Never in these years i have had the desire to "keep my bookmarks in sync". Absolutely never.
I just don't get the appeal of the "sync" features. I remember apple introducing it long time ago with "your open tabs are available everywhere" and i was like "why would i even want that".
Same for passwords. i have been using a keepass file to keep everything in one place and its not like i have to change every password every day that it needs to be in sync 24x7.
Just so you know, i spend almost 90 hours a week infront of my desktop/laptop/phone so i use a browser a lot, just not "connected" features.
I personally see this as a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. Look, why should a person who has only one phone need a syncing tool? to sync to what? I have my phone which is using firefox focus so that is that but i also have regular firefox but it is just another dumb browser. I use kdeconnect which gets me everything i need.
I last time asked why don't these newfang browser makes not adopt firefox as their codebase instead of chrome and the general consensus was "yada yada yada its too difficult, oh chrome so fun and easy" and then you have yesterdays' brave tor dns leak news which tells me exactly why the tor project chose firefox instead of "chromium".
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Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
#59look. I have been using an internet browser since 2005. Each an every day. Then since 2008, i have used an iphone and for the past 4 years used an android because i couldnt afford apple. Never in these years i have had the desire to "keep my bookmarks in sync". Absolutely never. I just don't get the appeal of the "sync" features. I remember apple introducing it long time ago with "your open tabs are available everywh…
Just because you (unique use case) don't see the problem doesn't mean it does not exist (for the common average user). The whole browser "sync" you get with Chrome is much more than keeping your bookmarks. It is a feature that now includes Google's ecosystem and for its users, the majority of people, it allows them to pick up where they left from. A major advantage in user experience.
Firefox has a long way to catch up to the polish & convenience of Chromium-based browsers. This is just a sad fact.
As for Brave, I won't give divulge too much to the recent tor dns leak news. Anyone knowledgeable enough to be using Tor knows the dangers of using a different browser from Tor and it's consequences.
Re: Logging into Gmail on Chrome links my Google Account to the browser
#60This is exactly what I would expect to happen - and if you imagine being a typical user, what they would expect too. I used incognito windows to log into Google services back when I used Chrome. Now I use Brave, and it has a feature that prevents logging in browser-wide just because you signed in to a given Google service, IIRC. (I still use incognito though, mostly out of habit and an obsessive desire to manage my "…
Brave just like other Chromium-based browsers will link any logged in Google accounts to browser data/history. How much of this data is sent back to Google should be the question here. Am not qualified enough to give this but it's reasonable to say Google will have the last laugh in this scenario. I also have an eery feeling Google tracks you even when you go incognito. After all it is the same browser (leaks such as supercookies keep coming up) and more importantly, their own browser.
All this is however wild conjecture. Am paranoid at all things Google & tracking.
A better approach IMO would be to isolate all Google-related activity to its own separate browser or go Firefox containers.