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Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by spijdar »

cheph wrote: post #19
TwoNineA wrote: post #6

I prefer virt-manager to Cockpit's VM management, way more feature complete.

Cockpit is not ever going to be as good as using the underlying tools it integrates with, but it is still pretty nice for what it is and I like having it.

I haven't really kept up with this, but last I heard virt-manager was deprecated (on RHEL at least) in favor of just Cockpit, hence the comparison.

Cockpit is definitely nice, but it still feels pretty incomplete compared to virt-manager.

virt-manager appears to still be developed, though, just without the same blessing/level of support from Red Hat.

Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by indigodaddy »

teejmya wrote: post #32
java-man wrote: post #3

Would anyone be interested in a desktop application with similar functionality, accessing [multiple] hosts via SSH?

https://www.royalapps.com/ does this. I'm a happy paying user of RoyalTS.

I don’t think just an ssh client is exactly what he is going for/talking about. Check out the GitHub he references further on down in this thread.

Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by luplex »

Is there a reason why successfully running software on a server is so much harder than running software on your phone?

I don't think it needs to be this way. Someone needs to figure out server software for consumers.

Just like PCs became more accessible, so should servers!

Edit: Brainstorming here: specifically, I'd like a more accessible UI, automatic updates, sensible defaults on all apps, an easier way to get started and so on.

Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by rlyshw »

luplex wrote: post #35

Is there a reason why successfully running software on a server is so much harder than running software on your phone? I don't think it needs to be this way. Someone needs to figure out server software for consumers. Just like PCs became more accessible, so should servers! Edit: Brainstorming here: specifically, I'd like a more accessible UI, automatic updates, sensible defaults on all apps, an easier way to get star…

Once you get the infrastructure set up and cloud-init-enabled template images, servers can be very turnkey. I can spin up a new DNS-addressable, auto-updating Ubuntu VM in two or three clicks then deploy software like this on it from the CLI. There’s even a system for easy LXC container apps called turnkey Linux. Works great with Proxmox.

Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by e12e »

luplex wrote: post #35

Is there a reason why successfully running software on a server is so much harder than running software on your phone? I don't think it needs to be this way. Someone needs to figure out server software for consumers. Just like PCs became more accessible, so should servers! Edit: Brainstorming here: specifically, I'd like a more accessible UI, automatic updates, sensible defaults on all apps, an easier way to get star…

It's not a trivial thing - docker and sandstorm.io might be two examples of making some decent headway here.

Just today I set up a postgres and ms sql server for testing - pretty much identically, running out of their own named docker containers (for those not aware, it's even more similar than it sounds, ms sql runs on Linux now).

Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by StillBored »

cheph wrote: post #19
TwoNineA wrote: post #6

I prefer virt-manager to Cockpit's VM management, way more feature complete.

Cockpit is not ever going to be as good as using the underlying tools it integrates with, but it is still pretty nice for what it is and I like having it.

virt-manager is just a shim on top of libvirt same as cockpit's VM component. So there really isn't any excuse on that front. Although your comparing a tool built as a competitor to something like vmware workstation/virtualbox against a general purpose machine mgmt tool that happens to be able to do some VM mgmt as well.

PS: I think both are good, but I too use virt-manager for all my VM twitting because nothing else on linux is both as feature complete for qemu/KVM while also avoiding having to read the manual just to adjust some VM parameter.

Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by themacguffinman »

luplex wrote: post #35

Is there a reason why successfully running software on a server is so much harder than running software on your phone? I don't think it needs to be this way. Someone needs to figure out server software for consumers. Just like PCs became more accessible, so should servers! Edit: Brainstorming here: specifically, I'd like a more accessible UI, automatic updates, sensible defaults on all apps, an easier way to get star…

There's no demand for it. There are some small & generous groups (eg. linuxserver.io) who cater to the tiny niche of "homelabbers", but even that is somewhat passionate & skilled group of people. It's mostly a waste of time to cater to anyone lower. Like most niche hobbies, no one is getting paid enough to care about the lowest common denominator.

Re: Cockpit – Integrated, glanceable, web-based interface for servers

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Post by whalesalad »

I live in the shell but for my home vms/boxes I love having this available. It’s particularly neat that you can integrate them all together and jump between different hosts. There are also extension packages to manage vms and Docker containers which is fun if I want to fire up a remote task.

Back in the day the closest thing to this was software called webmin.

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