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The actions of Twitter regarding the last election have almost certainly guaranteed the rise of foreign social media sites. If they have no qualms restricting the speech of the president of America, clearly they’ll have no issue manipulating other governments. American social media sites really have no one to blame but themselves.

I say this from a realpolitik perspective. This was clearly the obvious outcome.

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The site's creation is understandable when considering how destabilizing social media has been. Just look at how the US has changed from 2008 to now. Here's a particularly relevant quote from the article: "Every social media [platform] has to be responsible, to a certain extent, of what they bring into a country because it defines a lot of things in the country, like youth culture or how citizens of a country react t…

Social media is not destabilizing. The increasing income/wealth/opportunity gap is destabilizing. Social media is just how it can be seen.

Re: Koo, India’s free-speech Twitter alternative

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The site's creation is understandable when considering how destabilizing social media has been. Just look at how the US has changed from 2008 to now. Here's a particularly relevant quote from the article: "Every social media [platform] has to be responsible, to a certain extent, of what they bring into a country because it defines a lot of things in the country, like youth culture or how citizens of a country react t…

A rather lackluster solution to the power of social media in current society. A nationalist-approved twitter clone seems most likely an euphemism for a politically-controlled echo box to preserve the status quo and foster ultra-nationalism. Reeks of an Indian Parler, and that didn't turn out great.

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post #7

"instructed their followers to leave Western social networks for Koo, a local, free-speech platform." This is a funny turn of phrase given that it sounds like a lot of people are leaving twitter for Koo because twitter isn't doing enough banning to suit them.

There's also some opinion that advocates having self-reliant communication channels and tech-platforms.

Recent banning of Trump, Parler and Australian news from Facebook invigorated their drive.

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I grew up in India - nationalism is definitely a growing concern for the country IMO, more so than can be expressed online by articles such as this. And nationalism definitely has a huge overlap with hinduism in the country. Creating siloed media platforms that lets such ideas fester and grow is probably the worst thing that can happen. The thing is that even gently challenging these ideas (with some folks I know bac…

Why does 'nationalism' concern you. Is 'nationalism' always or almost always negative?

'nationalism' is typically distinguished from patriotism; the latter is a love of country -- the former is the conviction that one's country is better than other countries, on the basis of a rank tribalism.

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I grew up in India - nationalism is definitely a growing concern for the country IMO, more so than can be expressed online by articles such as this. And nationalism definitely has a huge overlap with hinduism in the country. Creating siloed media platforms that lets such ideas fester and grow is probably the worst thing that can happen. The thing is that even gently challenging these ideas (with some folks I know bac…

Why does 'nationalism' concern you. Is 'nationalism' always or almost always negative?

I found this segment on Amanpour & Co. helpful in understanding nationalism and how it's used by fascists.

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/amanpour-and-company/video/how-fasc...

My take away was fascists gain compliance by nationalism above anything including basic human rights.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does 'nationalism' concern you. Is 'nationalism' always or almost always negative?

Nationalism is always negative to me because I define it as blind allegiance to a tribe who you don't hold accountable.

First world luxury - but the 2020s will teach a lesson about primacy of Nation-State. Watch the Germans.

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It has become very common these days, to label people who don't agree with them as fascists, nationalists etc. This kind of mentality trivializes real issues. Facebook, Twitter and other big tech think of themselves as erstwhile English East India company or Dutch East India company. Just because someone is from the west, doesn't give them any right to give any kind of certificate to government of other countries.

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The actions of Twitter regarding the last election have almost certainly guaranteed the rise of foreign social media sites. If they have no qualms restricting the speech of the president of America, clearly they’ll have no issue manipulating other governments. American social media sites really have no one to blame but themselves. I say this from a realpolitik perspective. This was clearly the obvious outcome.

Hate speech inciting violence is what was banned not any speech.

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post #9

This resonated with me: >What we are seeing is that India wants to be more self-reliant. India includes everybody. Our app doesn’t understand “left” or “right.” I don’t understand “left” or “right.” I’m an entrepreneur; I’m extremely apolitical. And I’m all for the development of the country. If Koo as a statement can make us self-reliant on our own social networks and technology, then we should be cheering for it. W…

It's a worthy goal but may prove difficult to execute. Voat's original goal was to be a free-speech alternative to Reddit. What happened was that it was then flooded with racists who shaped the culture of the site.

That could happen with this site too. A site's culture is determined by a complicated combination of engineering decisions, moderation decisions, and the behavior of its users.

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