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“I will slaughter you”

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Post by mahart »

brunes wrote: post #79
Nextgrid wrote: post #15

The general demeanor of that person, some of the lingo used like "rooting" or "federal server hijacking", the fact that in the screenshot he's using some text editor with ads in it to browse the offending code combined with the fact that he doesn't know what Curl is (if he did he wouldn't have sent this e-mail) screams "script kiddie" to me. I'm not sure whether this person is actually responsible for a multi-million…

I am pretty sure they are not even a script kiddie... they are just a fairly immature troll. Not sure what caused the original email, but the reply is just a copy/paste of various unrelated things and security incidents that the person Googled without even understanding enough about them to form a comprehensible narrative. Which tells me they are simply trying to get a rise out of someone. The way the grammar is cons…

The sentence: 'You built a formula 1 race car and tossed the keys to kids'

Suggests he doesn't even comprehend that curl amounts to 'instructions to copy data'

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by thrwaway2day »

brunes wrote: post #79
Nextgrid wrote: post #15

The general demeanor of that person, some of the lingo used like "rooting" or "federal server hijacking", the fact that in the screenshot he's using some text editor with ads in it to browse the offending code combined with the fact that he doesn't know what Curl is (if he did he wouldn't have sent this e-mail) screams "script kiddie" to me. I'm not sure whether this person is actually responsible for a multi-million…

I am pretty sure they are not even a script kiddie... they are just a fairly immature troll. Not sure what caused the original email, but the reply is just a copy/paste of various unrelated things and security incidents that the person Googled without even understanding enough about them to form a comprehensible narrative. Which tells me they are simply trying to get a rise out of someone. The way the grammar is cons…

I've been in the government contracting space for about six months but those emails look to me to be about the level of competency I'm seeing with many of my colleagues. Spaghetti code with no unit tests and nobody knows how to use a debugger let alone a profiler. Getting irrationally mad at open source devs for making changes as if they were supposed keep the Jira tickets they were working on in mind specifically. Lack of ownership. Finger pointing. This looks quite real to me.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by pornel »

Many comments rush to label this guy as "mentally ill". Being an entitled asshole with misdirected anger is not necessarily a medical condition. And there are plenty of people with actual mental health problems who are not aggressive at all (statistically, mentally ill people are more likely to be victims of violence).

Health issues are a thing that happens to people, and they don't have control over it, which absolves them from responsibility for it. OTOH if the guy making these threats is just pissed off due to his own failures, or even is just a troll making it all up, he should be held responsible for his actions.

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Post by furyg3 »

bartread wrote: post #70
Ndymium wrote: post #12

This feels to me like a person with some sort of mental illness or breakdown and delusions of grandeur and persecution. Their explanation doesn't make much sense. If I were Daniel, I wouldn't respond any further.

I wouldn't respond but I probably would notify law enforcement and give them a copy of the exchange.

Yeah, I agree. There's probably not much they can do about it (and the individual will probably not end up taking any action), but in case he does, it's nice to have a police record of it all.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by bombcar »

bjarneh wrote: post #74
Nextgrid wrote: post #15

The general demeanor of that person, some of the lingo used like "rooting" or "federal server hijacking", the fact that in the screenshot he's using some text editor with ads in it to browse the offending code combined with the fact that he doesn't know what Curl is (if he did he wouldn't have sent this e-mail) screams "script kiddie" to me. I'm not sure whether this person is actually responsible for a multi-million…

I agree; this seems like someone with so little technical ability, that I wouldn't be surprised if he did manage to talk someone into a buying a multi million dollar defense project he could not deliver... > I lost my family, my country my friends, my home and 6 years of work trying to build a better place for posterity. I get loosing your family / home / friends, but a country? Where did that go?

This sounds like the result of unscrupulous "boot camps" that are common in countries like India - people are told if they sign up and pay $life_savings they can become a programmer and be hired by "The US Government" or other companies for enormous amounts of money.

A mundane class is offered with impractical advice and they're left with no money, little skills, and spamming the internet trying to get "their contract" - and if it doesn't materialize and they go back to the boot camp to complain the scammers blame it on "curl" - see the haxx.se domain? Clearly a hax0r ruined your chance at a better life.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by jancsika »

mettamage wrote: post #47

> That code is used to root and exploit people. That comment made me think and I realized the following. Open-source code like curl is inevitable when a society gains internet [1]. It's not Daniel's fault. If anything is to blame, blame the internet and human nature on a grand scale [2]. [1] If he wouldn't have made it, someone else would. If no one else would, then people would've done it privately. Some of that cod…

> Open-source code like curl is inevitable when a society gains internet

Maybe, but there's maybe an alternate universe that doesn't begin with such a dumbass implementation of the web.

"Excuse me everybody, how about we not make it common for clients to describe themselves with a simple plaintext string and not have servers expect to blithely log that same string as if the invention of packet switching predates the invention of lying."

Perhaps ours is the only universe where the grad student who was supposed to utter that missed the bus that day.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by lilSebastian »

david_draco wrote: post #61

There are two things wrong here: The person saw some exploit with curl headers, which damaged their life. That's upsetting, even if the email is misdirected, because Daniel just provided the infrastructure, and did not cause the specific abuse. What is wrong is the threat to life. The second thing that is wrong is to respond to the second email by doxxing the author to the public. The second email showed that the thr…

> The second thing that is wrong is to respond to the second email by doxxing the author to the public.

What evidence do you have for this?

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by growt »

Nextgrid wrote: post #15

The general demeanor of that person, some of the lingo used like "rooting" or "federal server hijacking", the fact that in the screenshot he's using some text editor with ads in it to browse the offending code combined with the fact that he doesn't know what Curl is (if he did he wouldn't have sent this e-mail) screams "script kiddie" to me. I'm not sure whether this person is actually responsible for a multi-million…

My bet is on GPT-2 (GPT-3 would probably generate better text). This whole reply just isn't coherent (first it's a defence contract, then it's learning software for kids?). So either AI generated or someone with some mental illness.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by konjin »

nullc wrote: post #37

I'm sorry to hear that. libCurl is great and my life is better for it. It's really best to not reply to the mentally ill people (and you can be pretty sure anyone sending something like the first is at least temporarily mentally ill). It can sometimes be extremely tempting, I know-- especially when they've managed to say something almost perfectly constructed for pithy comeback. But it will not help you and it will n…

I never got more hate mail then when I tried doing outreach for my physics group. It did include death threats (I think) it was hard to tell if I was being accused of being part of a modern inquisition that burned people at the stake or should be burned at the stake or both.

It was pretty close to: https://web.archive.org/web/20150506055228/http://www.timecu...

Another good time was when I was running a crypto meetup and we had to call the cops because someone came in naked, the CIA had put chips in their clothes and they had to burn their house down so they weren't homeless but on the run.

Then there was the time I was on the board of a hacker space: https://shitnoisebridgesays.tumblr.com/page/3 it wasn't noise bridge but it had the same vibe.

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