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Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by david_draco »

There are two things wrong here:

The person saw some exploit with curl headers, which damaged their life. That's upsetting, even if the email is misdirected, because Daniel just provided the infrastructure, and did not cause the specific abuse. What is wrong is the threat to life.

The second thing that is wrong is to respond to the second email by doxxing the author to the public. The second email showed that the threat was likely not specific and immanent, but venting. A reasonable response would be to notify the police. Or to reveal this case to the public explaining why this is misdirected, but without the author's name.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by lou1306 »

david_draco wrote: post #46
Ndymium wrote: post #12

This feels to me like a person with some sort of mental illness or breakdown and delusions of grandeur and persecution. Their explanation doesn't make much sense. If I were Daniel, I wouldn't respond any further.

He already responded by revealing the email and real name of the person, presumably without consent, aka doxxing.

If the person in question throws death threats around, and if that's their real name and address, then doxxing is the least of their concerns...

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by jraph »

Curl is such an essential tool that hadn't Daniel invented it, someone else would have. Nobody is right to hold him responsible for bad uses of Curl.

We already have wget by the way.

A lot of love to you Daniel if you read this and thanks for Curl!

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by sunir »

david_draco wrote: post #46
Ndymium wrote: post #12

This feels to me like a person with some sort of mental illness or breakdown and delusions of grandeur and persecution. Their explanation doesn't make much sense. If I were Daniel, I wouldn't respond any further.

He already responded by revealing the email and real name of the person, presumably without consent, aka doxxing.

That isn’t doxxing. You have no expectation of privacy if you send a threatening letter to another person.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by pmiller2 »

gspr wrote: post #35
pmiller2 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I agree. In his place, I either would have done nothing, or, maybe made a police report (not that I'd expect the police to actually do anything at this stage). Generally speaking, the less you antagonize someone whose first exchange with you is "I will slaughter you," the better, IMO.

> maybe made a police report (not that I'd expect the police to actually do anything at this stage). Indeed. But one shouldn't underestimate the chance that this wouldn't be the first report about this person. Lots of similar reports like this may actually cause them to do something.

I agree, in the sense that someone who has done something of this nature is more likely to have done such a thing in the past. However, in this case, the victim is someone who is being targeted through his email address, which is embedded in open source software that's contained in gazillions of systems worldwide. That makes it significantly less likely that whomever he would report this to would have gotten another report about this particular individual.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by [deleted] »

veltas wrote: post #52
corobo wrote: post #9

Not sure what this solves really. Some pissed off weirdo is an idiot aye. Either it's scary and get law enforcement involved or it's not and we're gawking and laughing at someone at their worst moment. In an attempt to take this post at its most charitable I agree, it fucking sucks there's not enough focus on mental health in the world.

When you get messages like this, sometimes you end up taking it differently to how it appears as a third party. Any threat of violence online can be interpreted as a joke, it's not easy to tell the difference sometimes and it's harder when you're on the receiving end of it.

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Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by peach45 »

> You built a formula 1 race car and tossed the keys to kids with ego problems.

I laughed. Curl: The Formula 1 race car of command line tools!

Aside from that, I am surprised that the harasser followed up in a mostly non-violent way. I expected an absolute troll. Sadly in fact it seems the harasser is in need of psychiatric attention.

Re: “I will slaughter you”

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Post by bartread »

Ndymium wrote: post #12

This feels to me like a person with some sort of mental illness or breakdown and delusions of grandeur and persecution. Their explanation doesn't make much sense. If I were Daniel, I wouldn't respond any further.

I wouldn't respond but I probably would notify law enforcement and give them a copy of the exchange.
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