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Re: Who are the culture heroes of today?

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #15

Culture can be defined as the qualities that make one society, whether separated by space or time, notably distinct from another. With that said: * Joe Rogan: Podcasting is now a legitimate profession and long form interviews are common. * Joe Rogan: Juijitsu and MMA were previously obscure. * The former U.S. President: Never compromise, form a strong opinion without any or few facts, and never admit mistakes. We now…

Street thug thinking makes people rich, all those listed business executives became rich this way.

Re: Who are the culture heroes of today?

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Post by thrown67 »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #34
3131s wrote: post #31

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That's not mainstream, it's just moron fodder that Youtube recommends to young white males. That list is a reflection of cultural decay, a vacuum where charlatans consume the empty intellectual space.

There are millions of forgotten (and fatherless) people, who suffer from depression, aimlessness, lack of discipline, nihilism, addiction, self-loathing and self pity. JP, speaks to those people and encourages them to find power through inner strength, personal responsibility, and discipline and not from from oppressing others or joining a mob. I am a middle aged, wealthy, Latino, liberal, atheist (i.e., not the ster…

Jordan Peterson is a charlatan. He is sexist. He is not a typical representative of a psychologist and one should be very wary of recommending him to someone depressed, he can put petrol on their fires [1][2]. I'm Indian and I find him similar in style though very different to the charlatan 'Sadhguru' Jaggi Vasudev. JP spews very poisonous bullshit along with his generic advises. I think the Nathan J Robinson piece about him 'The Intellectual we Deserve' is a good starting point [3].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25534961

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25533794

[3] https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-d...

Re: Who are the culture heroes of today?

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Post by thrown67 »

screye wrote: post #33

I'll talk about those (heroes/villains) who single handedly changed the trajectory of entire domains and the culture around it. (for better or for worse). * Narendra Modi - Modi is a phenomenon. You have to visit India to realize the extent to which everything revolves around him. A tier of popularity that was reserved for a Gandhi before this. The only man in India who can use the word 'privatization' without being…

Narendra Modi is also a person who can jail random journalists critical of him (or anyone for that matter) without getting cancelled. In fact, at this point I think he can do anything without getting cancelled. A lot (or most) of that 'popularity' was (is being) built through outright lies, fear, suppression of dissent, polarisation etc.

Re: Who are the culture heroes of today?

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Post by flippinburgers »

_throwawayyyyyy wrote: post #18
throwaway803453 wrote: post #15

Culture can be defined as the qualities that make one society, whether separated by space or time, notably distinct from another. With that said: * Joe Rogan: Podcasting is now a legitimate profession and long form interviews are common. * Joe Rogan: Juijitsu and MMA were previously obscure. * The former U.S. President: Never compromise, form a strong opinion without any or few facts, and never admit mistakes. We now…

if your entire definition of culture is an alt-right on ramp, then sure

I will never understand the hate directed towards Peterson or Rogan for that matter.

Re: Who are the culture heroes of today?

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Post by willcipriano »

afavour wrote: post #36
throwaway803453 wrote: post #15

Culture can be defined as the qualities that make one society, whether separated by space or time, notably distinct from another. With that said: * Joe Rogan: Podcasting is now a legitimate profession and long form interviews are common. * Joe Rogan: Juijitsu and MMA were previously obscure. * The former U.S. President: Never compromise, form a strong opinion without any or few facts, and never admit mistakes. We now…

I think you’re attributing a lot to a few there. Absolutely Joe Rogan helped make podcasts the phenomenon they are today, but so did a whole lot of other people. Same with PG and Altman: “startup culture” exists outside of their influence. I guess my metric is “if they didn’t exist, would their achievements have still happened?”. I’d argue with PG and Rogan they would have, but that Trump would not. Another I’d inclu…

>Absolutely Joe Rogan helped make podcasts the phenomenon they are today, but so did a whole lot of other people. Same with PG and Altman: “startup culture”

Ricky Gervais really got the ball rolling on podcasts early on. I'd credit much of it to him, Steven Merchant and Karl Pilkington. Frankly I think that podcast still represents the best work in the medium.

Re: Who are the culture heroes of today?

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Post by silly-silly »

therm0 wrote: post #47
silly-silly wrote: post #17

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Do you get to make the call for someone else ?

i suppose not, but what's heroic about the exploitation of labor or spreading covid misinformation?

Different attributes of people can be considered heroic. I personally don't think he's heroic either.

Re: Who are the culture heroes of today?

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Post by _throwawayyyyyy »

thrown67 wrote: post #42
throwaway803453 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are millions of forgotten (and fatherless) people, who suffer from depression, aimlessness, lack of discipline, nihilism, addiction, self-loathing and self pity. JP, speaks to those people and encourages them to find power through inner strength, personal responsibility, and discipline and not from from oppressing others or joining a mob. I am a middle aged, wealthy, Latino, liberal, atheist (i.e., not the ster…

Jordan Peterson is a charlatan. He is sexist. He is not a typical representative of a psychologist and one should be very wary of recommending him to someone depressed, he can put petrol on their fires [1][2]. I'm Indian and I find him similar in style though very different to the charlatan 'Sadhguru' Jaggi Vasudev. JP spews very poisonous bullshit along with his generic advises. I think the Nathan J Robinson piece a…

just posting that i love this comment and thank you
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