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Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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Wait what? People search on Facebook for content? Maybe for content of what their friends are up to. I've never considered a social networking site to be a search engine, and considering Facebook's abysmal attempts at targeted marketing (their ads SUCK at relevance) no matter how many time I tell it that a certain ad is of no relevance. I just don't see how Facebook is "winning the web war". Maybe I have different fr…

They are winning the web war since their messaging has basically completely displaced AIM, MSN and GChat in the US in the 16-26 year olds. Its also put a decent dent into email for asynch communication, and I only expect that to continue.

I don't see facebook overtaking email in professional situations for a long time.

Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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If they had just announced they would be charging for it people would also be upset. By announcing they're shutting it down, then backpedaling a little by offering to charge for it developers can't be as upset. Genius!

More to that, now they are the good guys who read all the comments, cared about their users, listened to their opinions and are changing their decisions based on those comments. Agreed, Ingenious.

Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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post #17

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Wait what? People search on Facebook for content? Maybe for content of what their friends are up to. I've never considered a social networking site to be a search engine, and considering Facebook's abysmal attempts at targeted marketing (their ads SUCK at relevance) no matter how many time I tell it that a certain ad is of no relevance. I just don't see how Facebook is "winning the web war". Maybe I have different fr…

They are winning the web war since their messaging has basically completely displaced AIM, MSN and GChat in the US in the 16-26 year olds. Its also put a decent dent into email for asynch communication, and I only expect that to continue.

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Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait what? People search on Facebook for content? Maybe for content of what their friends are up to. I've never considered a social networking site to be a search engine, and considering Facebook's abysmal attempts at targeted marketing (their ads SUCK at relevance) no matter how many time I tell it that a certain ad is of no relevance. I just don't see how Facebook is "winning the web war". Maybe I have different fr…

They are winning the web war since their messaging has basically completely displaced AIM, MSN and GChat in the US in the 16-26 year olds. Its also put a decent dent into email for asynch communication, and I only expect that to continue.

Judging how successful somethings is based on how popular their messaging service is seems a bit counter-intuitive. During my life I have seen IRC, then ICQ, then AIM, then MSN, then Facebook hold the top spot for IM client over period as low as 15 years. What more, at this moment all of my friends are reachable on gtalk simply due to the rising popularity of the Android platform, so who's to say how things will change going forward.

When it comes to communication people simply use what's most convenient, and has the bigger percentage of their friends. Obviously this will shift and change as services gain and lose popularity, and I think the past couple of decades have illustrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that eventually everything loses popularity on the internet (save perhaps trolling). Facebook is already a gigantic corporation with thousands of employees, millions of line of code written to support their model, and an ever growing turnaround time for new features. Obviously that can be very useful for company with such a large size and scope, but it is not without problems.

All it would take to drown Facebook would be for a new service to come along with some sort of game-changing idea; at that point the monolithic structure of Facebook will prevent them from adapting quickly enough and they will begin to lose their early adopter crowd, and with them more and more of their newcomers. Sure, they will keep much of the mainstream crowd they managed to attract over the years, much like myspace still holds a huge share of their original market segment, but that will be inertia more than anything.

This is not some wild speculation either. We've seen this happen several times already in the short history of the internet, and we will see it happen again, and again, and again for as long as the internet exists. This is just the life cycle of a web based company. So in other words Facebook isn't really winning any war, because honestly, there really isn't any war. At best it is yet another period of reshuffling during which yet another service ends up on top.

Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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post #17

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Wait what? People search on Facebook for content? Maybe for content of what their friends are up to. I've never considered a social networking site to be a search engine, and considering Facebook's abysmal attempts at targeted marketing (their ads SUCK at relevance) no matter how many time I tell it that a certain ad is of no relevance. I just don't see how Facebook is "winning the web war". Maybe I have different fr…

They are winning the web war since their messaging has basically completely displaced AIM, MSN and GChat in the US in the 16-26 year olds. Its also put a decent dent into email for asynch communication, and I only expect that to continue.

Oh no! What will Google do without all the money they make from GChat?

Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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post #17

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They are winning the web war since their messaging has basically completely displaced AIM, MSN and GChat in the US in the 16-26 year olds. Its also put a decent dent into email for asynch communication, and I only expect that to continue.

I don't see facebook overtaking email in professional situations for a long time.

I Agree. If a business contact wants to get to me through facebook I cringe. Although I can see the current generation using it in a more professional sense.

Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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a new revenue stream, sweet. To bad Facebook and Bing are winning the web away.

Bing has made huge strides in their search and mapping system. I love it. However, for what ever reason, I still do my searches via Google.

Microsoft Ad center was also a walk in the park compared to Google Adsense. I am a novice though.

Re: Google to offer for-pay Translate API

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Its true, facebook is making a new type of internet. Its hardly about search anymore, now people search facebook for content. Social networks are a fad like anything else but they are winning now.

Wait what? People search on Facebook for content? Maybe for content of what their friends are up to. I've never considered a social networking site to be a search engine, and considering Facebook's abysmal attempts at targeted marketing (their ads SUCK at relevance) no matter how many time I tell it that a certain ad is of no relevance. I just don't see how Facebook is "winning the web war". Maybe I have different fr…

people (non-hackers) are searching for content (and people) on facebook. pages alone host a considerable amount of fresh content from businesses, institutions and organizations.

you do have to consider many of those searches as looking for stuff already in their social graph (friends, pages, etc). i know i use their search to navigate all the time.

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