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I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by pcthrowaway »

JoelMcCracken wrote: post #542

I read this a few hours ago and didn't decide to comment then. But I just have to. I just lost my brother-in-law to heroin overdose. He overdosed because he went into rehab, came out, and then used far more than his body could tolerate. This is unfortunately common. Not because he mixed it with alcohol or antihistamines or whatever. Overall, his entire life has been extremely tragic. He was a good guy at heart. He wa…

I'm sorry to hear about your brother-in-law. I've met many people who have had similar issues with alcohol. And yet, myself and many people are also able to use it in balance, in a way that contributes positively to our well-being.

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Post by king_panic »

ta8645 wrote: post #476
king_panic wrote: post #464

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The argument the author is making is that addiction is an outlier. Many many many people drink, snort cocaine, smoke cigarettes and in the author's case, use heroin, and never develop addiction. I can understand why this infuriates people who've seen or known people who've died from an addiction but it's important for people to understand that alcohol, drugs, gambling, facebook, the internet, shopping, and everything…

You had me until your last sentence. There are people who are born with huge lung capacity, they are able to swim faster and longer than anyone else. We would never believe that it's emotional pain that is keeping everyone else from swimming as well. And people are born colorblind, they don't lose that ability because of emotional pain. Physics and our individual body chemistry at birth plays a deep role in our uniqu…

Look up Gabor Mate

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by pcthrowaway »

ta8645 wrote: post #476
king_panic wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument the author is making is that addiction is an outlier. Many many many people drink, snort cocaine, smoke cigarettes and in the author's case, use heroin, and never develop addiction. I can understand why this infuriates people who've seen or known people who've died from an addiction but it's important for people to understand that alcohol, drugs, gambling, facebook, the internet, shopping, and everything…

You had me until your last sentence. There are people who are born with huge lung capacity, they are able to swim faster and longer than anyone else. We would never believe that it's emotional pain that is keeping everyone else from swimming as well. And people are born colorblind, they don't lose that ability because of emotional pain. Physics and our individual body chemistry at birth plays a deep role in our uniqu…

Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park . It's not conclusively relevant to humans, but it does at the very least cast doubt on the models historically used to understand addiction.

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Post by emteycz »

iamacyborg wrote: post #591
Cerium wrote: post #588

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Snarky comments generally get down-voted. I would like to take a look at your point though. Is death the outcome of life? I don't buy a computer to wait for it to break, even though that is the inevitable outcome. The meaning of life is not to have an opportunity to die.

I guess that would depend on whether you believe there's a meaning to life in the first place.

Why do you need meaning? Have fun!

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by bostonsre »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #208
bostonsre wrote: post #131

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The assertions that the are made in the article seem like something that should be backed up with studies and not anecdotal evidence from one person (even if he is well respected). It is an incredibly slippery slope for people to walk out on. It would be incredibly hard for someone to say whether or not they will spiral out of control if they try it and the consequences of becoming heavily addicted are life destroyin…

>The assertions that the are made in the article seem like something that should be backed up with studies and not anecdotal evidence from one person (even if he is well respected). Wherw do you think he got these assertions? There have already been studies about how often heroin users are addicts or what the addiction rate of prescription opioids are.

From the interview, it sounds a lot like he got them from his personal experience. He mentions percentages, but I see no references to any sources. It matters what those sources are (e.g. if they are from Purdue pharma or the sacklers, it's probably BS).

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Post by zigh »

aphextron wrote: post #583
JoelMcCracken wrote: post #542

I read this a few hours ago and didn't decide to comment then. But I just have to. I just lost my brother-in-law to heroin overdose. He overdosed because he went into rehab, came out, and then used far more than his body could tolerate. This is unfortunately common. Not because he mixed it with alcohol or antihistamines or whatever. Overall, his entire life has been extremely tragic. He was a good guy at heart. He wa…

More lives have been destroyed by alcohol than have ever even tried heroin. What you are describing sounds no different than an alcoholic. The whole point of this article, and Dr. Hart's research in general, is that it's not ok to demonize some drugs over others just because they are culturally accepted. Addiction is addiction, and there's zero evidence to support the fact that heroin is any more addictive or dangero…

You will not be able to say this if heroin is as accessible as alcohol. It's easy to test objectively which one is more addictive.

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Post by Dma54rhs »

hackermailman wrote: post #203
capableweb wrote: post #147

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I think you're missing the point of the article a bit. Everyone knows Heroin is dangerous and it's iterated on in the article as well. Only responsible and healthy individuals should self-use drugs, generally speaking. Then you can also argue that you might not have lost your friends only because of Heroin the substance, but also how people with heroin addiction is "treated" and frowned upon in society. I think what…

Anybody who thinks this harm reduction strategy works should go visit cities that have employed it for years like Vancouver, Canada where there are legal shooting galleries everywhere, no arrests for personal amounts, and prescribed heroin that thousands of drug addicts have been on for 10 years now and the problem gets worse everyday. There used to just be a contained area of people passed out all over the street no…

I live in Europe where drugs are legalized. Definetly it doesn't mean anti social behavior is "legalized" what often at least seems the case with Nort American progressive cities. People are treated as adults and are expected to act like ones.

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Post by [deleted] »

Bodell wrote: post #410
nimbius wrote: post #179

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Fully agree. Carl is a white collar professor. The worst thing that can happen if his drug indulgence becomes a problem is he knocks over the water cooler or loses his job. I work a blue collar job servicing heavy diesel engines. Casual hard drug users are aggravatingly cavalier to work alongside. They forget important things constantly. They show up late and lose things often. You'll spend all day repeating things t…

I want to agree with what your saying but with a caveat. Years ago I was an office manager at a battery supply warehouse (car batteries not AA’s). We had an employee that had started working for us for about 6 months when it became vary apparent that he had a drug problem. Because his brother also worked there we knew that he had suffered a major car accident, was in crippling debt from the medical bills, and develop…

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by tigershark »

JoelMcCracken wrote: post #542

I read this a few hours ago and didn't decide to comment then. But I just have to. I just lost my brother-in-law to heroin overdose. He overdosed because he went into rehab, came out, and then used far more than his body could tolerate. This is unfortunately common. Not because he mixed it with alcohol or antihistamines or whatever. Overall, his entire life has been extremely tragic. He was a good guy at heart. He wa…

I can feel your pain. I flagged the parent post because I think that it’s extremely dangerous and I have no idea how it’s still on the top of the front page given the mountain of falsehood written by what is clearly a disillusioned, high functioning, heroin addict that can’t accept his condition. You, guys, are literally killing people every minute that this shit is up, believe me.
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