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I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by iamacyborg »

Cerium wrote: post #588
cambaceres wrote: post #576

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Don't take this wrong, but I'm pretty skeptical of a positive outcome of your life too. We all die in the end.

Snarky comments generally get down-voted. I would like to take a look at your point though. Is death the outcome of life? I don't buy a computer to wait for it to break, even though that is the inevitable outcome. The meaning of life is not to have an opportunity to die.

I guess that would depend on whether you believe there's a meaning to life in the first place.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by GordonS »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #300
GordonS wrote: post #278

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The author is not suggesting you take heroin at work, any more than it would be acceptable to drink alcohol at work.

Are we equating alcohol with heroin?

My point is the opposite, that from a social perspective, "just" alcohol is a serious no-no during work, especially if working with machinery etc.

Although realistically, alcohol is probably one of the worst from a work safety perspective.

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Post by GordonS »

mdoms wrote: post #376
ryanmarsh wrote: post #300

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Are we equating alcohol with heroin?

The article does this numerous times.

I read TFA, and didn't see any such mention. I've gone back to it with the search tool, and still don't see any such thing. Would you mind pointing to where these numerous points are please?

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Post by GordonS »

biolurker1 wrote: post #454
Toutouxc wrote: post #440

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Shouldn't we? Alcohol ruins more lives and causes more injuries and damage than heroin.

Just because it's used by a vast number of people. Getting rational, for every 100 alcohol and 100 heroin users who do you think is in better health shape?

But how much of that is not because of the actual drug itself, but rather because the drug is illegal?

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Post by [deleted] »

gdsdfe wrote: post #127
emsy wrote: post #31

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Do insulin users have a drug problem? I think at the core of the issue is that our society generally regards psychological ailments as a personal flaw, rather than a health issue. (I’m talking generally, not about the professor from the article)

insulin doesn't make you suck dick in an alley to get a fix

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Post by laurent92 »

jackric wrote: post #457
Natsu wrote: post #406

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Drugs still affect people during working hours even if used off-duty. I had to mummify a guy's hand because it was sliced open by glass, once. They were airlifted to the hospital because the bleeding couldn't be controlled. Another guy was doing something unsafe with his forklift, probably because he was in a hurry, right before Christmas, it rolled over on him and he died. That's why we couldn't keep people who were…

I have a solution to prevent this, which doesn't prejudice Mike for having a bit of weed 2 weeks ago camping. Also it will filter out those unfit to work from legal medication, or tiredness. Make workers do a 30 second ability test before going on shift. Design the test to measure reaction speed, short term memory, etc. [follow up thought] - Test must be immune to practice/muscle memory. Don't want a drunk passing th…

Serious question: Can we design a test for “getthereitis”? Most often, people would pass the test, but then misjudge and, in the case of Christmas, hurry up to “get there” (hence the name) and underestimate a risk. Ability is 10/10 but judgement is 2/10, and it is hard to verify that their mindset is calm.

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Post by vinger »

edgyquant wrote: post #449
minitoar wrote: post #349

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Sure, but op is talking about someone who uses controlled substances outside of work. If they’re not under the influence of a substance at work, then it’s not the same situation you are talking about.

The effects of almost any narcotic last for 72 hours at least. Not as intense, for sure, but there are still symptoms.

The effects can last a lifetime but saying any narcotic will last for at least 72 hours doesn't take into consideration dose, weight, history isn't even closely true.

Did you know eating a poppyseed bagel will cause a positive for heroin for upto 60 hours afterwards while doing a small amount of heroin will not show up on that same test.

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Post by bsder »

gonehome wrote: post #545
JoelMcCracken wrote: post #542

I read this a few hours ago and didn't decide to comment then. But I just have to. I just lost my brother-in-law to heroin overdose. He overdosed because he went into rehab, came out, and then used far more than his body could tolerate. This is unfortunately common. Not because he mixed it with alcohol or antihistamines or whatever. Overall, his entire life has been extremely tragic. He was a good guy at heart. He wa…

Yeah, the piece reads like a rationalization by a drug user still in the early stages of a problem. We'll see how things turn out in the end (maybe I'm wrong), but I'm pretty skeptical of a positive outcome.

Yeah, I tend to place a lot more stock in the vast legions of musicians who can't agree on anything but are almost unanimous in "Look, just don't do heroin. Any drug but that."

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Post by ewokone »

JoelMcCracken wrote: post #542

I read this a few hours ago and didn't decide to comment then. But I just have to. I just lost my brother-in-law to heroin overdose. He overdosed because he went into rehab, came out, and then used far more than his body could tolerate. This is unfortunately common. Not because he mixed it with alcohol or antihistamines or whatever. Overall, his entire life has been extremely tragic. He was a good guy at heart. He wa…

Same here.

This article is way out on facts. This guy should better read some science based books like the of Gabor Mate, 'in the realm of hungry ghosts'. Inside this books it is well explained in detail, if drugs create addictions, why humans take drugs, what happens to the brain on drugs, what happens in long term usage and what somehow all users share in common, from their emotional journey. Its about getting love, feeling seen, feeling rewarded, ..from friends, next one's and society itself or more often, in the search for rest from trauma and depression....

Damn nautilus this article was reputation hurting.

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Post by mattnewton »

minitoar wrote: post #355
mattnewton wrote: post #331

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Because they showed up on depressants that are known to inhibit your ability to operate heavy machinery?

How can you tell they are on depressants? Did you drug test them?

I can see where you are going with this, and I am aware of the problems with drug tests and largely agree they are over-applied. But I don't know of an alternative to these imprecise tests in many cases.
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