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Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by HaoZeke » Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 11:03 AM UTC

m000 wrote: post #414

HaoZeke wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised Enpass doesn't get mentioned more. Though the UI recently took a huge hit because of an asinine pwned password checker.

Thanks for the pointer. First time I hear about Enpass. The UI looks nice, but I still don't get their company model. Data are stored on a third party cloud provider of your choice, so why is Enpass subscription-based? I surmise that paying removes some sort of ads from the apps, but I can't tell for sure. If that's the case, I'll have to pass.

It actually restricts the number of items you can sync. It is much cheaper though. Actually; with the new model they do have a sort of ad based system; they have this incredibly dumb popup about how some passwords might be compromised. Oddly even after paying its impossible to kill that banner.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by blaser-waffle » Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

Spivak wrote: post #339

chousuke wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ridiculously overpriced for what essentially amounts to storing a tiny binary blob on a server somewhere and making sure it's backed up. I would've been happy to continue paying 12 USD / year for that service, but at triple the cost? I'm now on BitWarden.

I mean the value prop is the software functionality, not the storage. You think lastpass/1password are funding their development with a markup on storage? I can get the argument that it’s not worth $36 but not because of storage costs.

So... what are they funding it with? Data mining?

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by D-Nice » Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 8:56 PM UTC

Speaking of competitors and alternatives to this. I've used a version of my own for years, and have recently started working on a FOSS password generator and manager, called SrsPass.

Would love feedback on it, and it has an open-spec so you don't need to dig into the code itself to at least get a high-level overview of how it works, and at same time give anyone else the power to reimplement the spec:

https://app.srspass.com for the app available as PWA

https://docs.srspass.com/tech/ for a tech overview

I have received complaints about the current unskippable setup process being somewhat cumbersome, and one of the things on the top of the list to improve that experience is allowing a quick setup, essentially postponement of saving the backup phrase to a later time, albeit I'm deliberating a safe implementation of it.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by cabbagehead » Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 2:24 PM UTC

carlivar wrote: post #208

Note that you get a free Family account if you are already in an Enterprise plan (so if your work uses it, which mine does).

"Premium as a Perk" is not automatic with Enterprise plan, as far as I can tell. Your company can offer it if it pays "discounted bulk pricing".

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by tunesmith » Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 9:10 PM UTC

_coveredInBees wrote: post #399

tunesmith wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden doesn't have a Safari extension anymore since Safari's extensions are their own format... Safari since said they'd allow Chrome's extension api but I haven't heard if Bitwarden will start developing the Safari extension again.

That's not true. If you install it from the Mac App store, you do then get the extension and can activate it within Safari. I just switched from LastPass to Bitwarden and by all accounts it seems better than LastPass (for my basic usage) and the Safari extension is working fine for me.

Thanks for this, by the way. There was a time where the author had announced that he wouldn't be supporting the Safari extension for Catalina and beyond, and I never realized it came back. My work life is better now ;)

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by klausjensen » Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 8:11 PM UTC

squaresmile wrote: post #80

chrisamiller wrote: post #16

LastPass costs $36 per year. Operating on the principle of being the customer and not the product, that seems very reasonable for a secure way to store and share the keys to my digital life. That said, it does make it a little bit harder for me to onboard my friends and family when they ask. One of the selling points has always been "Yes, you can use it on your phone and laptop" and "no, it doesn't cost anything".

I agree with other comments that in the current market, Lastpass is not worth it at $36/y. The way they increased the price is arguably more annoying than the price tag. I happily paid for Lastpass at $12/y. Logmein raised price and I switched to free. Logmein limited free capabilities and I will switch to Bitwarden or 1Password and pay them. I'm not staying with Lastpass to get the rug pulled out under me the third…

It looks to me like 1Password has the same pricetag as Lastpass: 36USD/y.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by Technetium » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 4:24 PM UTC

klausjensen wrote: post #426

squaresmile wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with other comments that in the current market, Lastpass is not worth it at $36/y. The way they increased the price is arguably more annoying than the price tag. I happily paid for Lastpass at $12/y. Logmein raised price and I switched to free. Logmein limited free capabilities and I will switch to Bitwarden or 1Password and pay them. I'm not staying with Lastpass to get the rug pulled out under me the third…

It looks to me like 1Password has the same pricetag as Lastpass: 36USD/y.

At least they've kept it the same price for years https://web.archive.org/web/20160915083507/https://1password...

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by rsj_hn » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 1:46 AM UTC

notyourday wrote: post #364

Spivak wrote: post #338

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Fine but that’s not the parent’s point. You shouldn’t buy from local stores, local restaurants, or small shops because of some notion that you’re sticking it to large companies. You do when, for you, their products and services they offer have better value for you. If you choose a worse or more expensive product because it’s from a small business then you’re only making yourself worse off.

> Fine but that’s not the parent’s point. You shouldn’t buy from local stores, local restaurants, or small shops because of some notion that you’re sticking it to large companies. You do when, for you, their products and services they offer have better value for you. That's not correct: the part of the value that you get from buying from local small businesses rather than conglomerates is that you are not buying from…

That's true for people who try to politicize every aspect of their lives, but this is a toxic attitude and, as the grandparent post said, you are only hurting yourself.