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Ask HN: What is your advice to someone who is starting out in software industry?

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Re: Ask HN: What is your advice to someone who is starting out in software industry?

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Don't burn yourself out. It's just a job, not your identity. Put in your 40 hours then do something else. You might not enjoy programming for money as much as programming for fun, so you should also develop other hobbies. Don't make it your responsibility to fix management mistakes. Few things are really urgent. Don't work long hours because of an arbitrary decision to ship on the 15th. Deadlines are missed all the t…

> You might not enjoy programming for money as much as programming for fun, so you should also develop other hobbies.

I thought the solution was to program for fun as a hobby :-)

Re: Ask HN: What is your advice to someone who is starting out in software industry?

#52

Have an exit plan with fallback skillset. The current SW industry is due to go through a dramatic implosion once AI truly takes off.

If AI truly takes off so much that programmers are getting displaced, which other jobs will even be left to move into?

Re: Ask HN: What is your advice to someone who is starting out in software industry?

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Imposter syndrome is real. Kinda soon you'll be in a position where others look up to you, thinking they'll never get as good as you, while you still think you're a total noob. If coding, don't do everything from scratch. I've seen multiple people losing interest in their projects, because they didn't even really start them. It's almost always parsers, they (my old me included) write their own parsers for stuff and t…

Once you realise everyone is an imposter, you realise no one is.

Re: Ask HN: What is your advice to someone who is starting out in software industry?

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Have an exit plan with fallback skillset. The current SW industry is due to go through a dramatic implosion once AI truly takes off.

If AI truly takes off so much that programmers are getting displaced, which other jobs will even be left to move into?

Robot psychiatrist.

;-)

Re: Ask HN: What is your advice to someone who is starting out in software industry?

#59
If you're in a place with people you like, with sane management, and OK or better pay, do not be in a hurry to move to the next job. Positions with those ingredients are not real easy to find, and it stinks to be in a job without one or more of those.

On the flip side, if you're in a job that has toxic people, insane management, or lousy pay, don't stay because of inertia or laziness or a hope that it might get better eventually. Start looking.

Specifically about ageism: I have not seen it. I'm 58. What I have seen, though, is that I'm very expensive. I have 35 years of experience, and I expect to be paid like it. If someone want to pay me like I have 5 years of experience, that's not ageism, that's being cheap. If someone doesn't see the value in 35 years of experience compared to five years, fine, I'll work somewhere else.

For me to get away with this, I have to actually be more valuable than someone with 5 years of experience. I'm in embedded software, and it's easier for me to do so in that area than in, say, web programming, partly because the underlying stack changes more slowly in embedded. But also, I've had to keep growing in my ability to deliver what my employer wants in a timely fashion. I don't make as many design mistakes as I did before. I don't write as many bugs. I don't start down as many wrong paths. I don't work insane hours, but I still get more actually done and working.

If you can deliver more value per time, then you're worth more money. Do that and you won't have to worry about ageism.

Re: Ask HN: What is your advice to someone who is starting out in software industry?

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If the comment made here "It's just a job, not your identity. Put in your 40 hours then do something else.", then look at a larger company. You'll be less likely to "make a difference", but you'll be less likely (not impossible, but less likely) to be fired or laid off. You'll get insurance, time off, some flexible time to go to kid's games. You won't be Dorsey or Zuckerberg rich but you won't be working 80-hour weeks for the slim chance of being rich.
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