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If you cannot run what you want on the device, do you really own it?
If you cannot buy it because miners have purchased all the stock, do you really own it?
(1) Many gamers are miners in their spare time! (2) Big Mining operations actually write their own drivers (3) Huge Mining operations even use custom boards (4) I heard that that Nvidia has been selling silicon directly to the big boys ( https://wccftech.com/nvidia-allegedly-sold-175-million-worth... ) (5) With this action I expect its only the little guys getting removed from the game here (1) a huge benefit for the…
Gamers hate miners, they're driving the price up, make hardware impossible to get ect ... It's a really problematic situation. Almost 6 month after launching new graphic cards from AMD / NVIDIA good luck gettting an RTX 30xx or 6800. On a side note all those virtual currency are just plain wrong on the environment side, it does not make any sense in 2021 to have a currency that need heavy computation thus increasing…
Not to take a side in this fight but i find the counter argument about the environmental cost of regular currencies interesting. How much co2 is emitted in the clearing of dollar transactions vs the clearing of bitcoin for example. That’s a whole lot of data centres. I’m not persuaded that we can put costs like legal (or even military) protection under just the dollar column - if you steal my $CO2COIN i can leverage…
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Or. Uhm. Use older drivers? I bet these are bios changes though.
The RTX 3060 hasn't released yet, so if the cards ship with this limitation, there aren't any old drivers to use.
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When?
Never. They've been "moving to proof of stake" for something like three years. The miners are making money off of them not moving to proof of stake. The miners stop making money when they move to proof of stake. The only people who can actually allow the chain to move to proof of stake are the miners. Meanwhile, xtz and ada have been proof of stake since their inception, 3+ years already for both.
They've been _planning_ to move to PoS for ~3 years, with a much too optimistic timeline. In the meantime a lot of companies working towards that have collapsed or refocused on other efforts, delaying the whole transition. It will probably take another ~3 years (my personal estimate) until the transition is reasonably finished and core parts of the ecosystems have migrated, but at least it's moving into the right direction.
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Not to take a side in this fight but i find the counter argument about the environmental cost of regular currencies interesting. How much co2 is emitted in the clearing of dollar transactions vs the clearing of bitcoin for example. That’s a whole lot of data centres. I’m not persuaded that we can put costs like legal (or even military) protection under just the dollar column - if you steal my $CO2COIN i can leverage…
> How much co2 is emitted in the clearing of dollar transactions vs the clearing of bitcoin for example. That’s a whole lot of data centres. About 40000 times less I think? That's the figure I saw for a SEPA transfer or Mastercard transaction vs the bitcoin equivalent
The 3060 Ti was already NVIDIA's mining efficiency leader (per W and per $). I think the 3060 would be in the same ballpark, if not better, which I assume is why NVIDIA is doing this.
Presumably they will do nothing to the existing cards (in part because it would solve very little if you could just use old drivers to get the unthrottled MH/s).
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I use CUDA for scientific calculations and I wonder how this will affect GPU performance since any detection algorithm may have fault positives. The only problem with such artificial limitation is that usually people who mine crypto are very inventive (if you have doubts about that just check laptop mining farms [1]), since they try to squeeze out as many H/s as possible. It is just a matter of time when the 'right'…
Honestly if it's an issue they'd probably tell you you're also using their GeForce cards wrong and you need to move up to Quadro.
Have nvidia lost their minds? It's going to take days for mining operations to reverse-engineer the driver and undo this. So commercial operations won't be affected at all. Worse, their detection isn't going to be 100% perfect. What if After Effects does something that looks "kind of" like mining. Is it just going to be crippled? What will nvidia do then? Suggest I buy a Quadro for AE support? This will only penalise…
Yeah, this is about par for the course for Nvidia. I wish AMD had a working product to kick their teeth in...
I hate that I wasn't able to get a 30x series because miners grabbed them. I hate that my preorder was canceled by the supplier on the day it was supposed to ship, just because a farm had a better price. But guess what Nvidia? I no longer want your products. As much as I may dislike the fact crypto is affecting gaming (rendering, machine learning...) I can't help but ask: Who in the holy F are you to tell me what to…
> Who in the holy F are you to tell me what to do with my product? It is the same with hardware video encode, RTX cards are locked up to 2x streams at maximum while they are in most cases capable of many, many more (i.e. Plex transcodes). Not that this is an issue though, since it's a driver lock with a working fix.
And, they mention the ETH algorithm specifically is what they detect -- there are a bunch of other algorithms that aren't ETH that are profitable to mine.