It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for someone to reverse-engineer the drivers and remove the slowdown code.
Or. Uhm. Use older drivers? I bet these are bios changes though.
Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
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Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#72That said I'm not sure how effective this measure will be as in my understanding all that miners need to do in order to circumvent this throttling is avoid downloading the newest NVIDIA drivers (?). In addition, I'm sure miners will quickly come up with a crack that renders the throttling moot, so not sure if this will fix the supply side. Offering specific hardware to miners that doesn't compete with that for gamers seems to be a better solution, but again if NVIDIA isn't able to satisfy the demand for such hardware miners will keep buying regular GPUs and try to circumvent the software throttling.
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#73Gamers hate miners, they're driving the price up, make hardware impossible to get ect ... It's a really problematic situation. Almost 6 month after launching new graphic cards from AMD / NVIDIA good luck gettting an RTX 30xx or 6800. On a side note all those virtual currency are just plain wrong on the environment side, it does not make any sense in 2021 to have a currency that need heavy computation thus increasing…
I don't quite get why everyone seems to get onto the environment train with crypto but seem to have had no issues with gold
It sucks that gold is so desired just for its look. If it were cheaper it would be used a lot more for technological devices.
I can't wait until asteroid mining crashes the gold price and hopefully puts an end to the ecological disaster that is gold mining.
Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#74So they’re hamstringing normal cards (to protect gamers of course!) and releasing a “new” card without the hamstring at a higher price and we’re to believe this is simply to protect gamers and not a money grab?
Wouldn't the easy money grab be to just set MSRP for all cards way higher ($5k?) while the demand is ~infinite?
But then how do they capture the "just gamers"? They would have to additionally sell a neutered card just for them, and that is exactly what they are doing here
Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#75Gamers hate miners, they're driving the price up, make hardware impossible to get ect ... It's a really problematic situation. Almost 6 month after launching new graphic cards from AMD / NVIDIA good luck gettting an RTX 30xx or 6800. On a side note all those virtual currency are just plain wrong on the environment side, it does not make any sense in 2021 to have a currency that need heavy computation thus increasing…
Ethereum has been designed from the very start to switch from PoW (mining) to PoS (validating) and Phase 0 of that transition has already started.
Given the existing investment in Ethereum HW, it almost seems like it’s just a carrot to deflect criticism about power consumption, but not something that will actually happen.
Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#76Gamers hate miners, they're driving the price up, make hardware impossible to get ect ... It's a really problematic situation. Almost 6 month after launching new graphic cards from AMD / NVIDIA good luck gettting an RTX 30xx or 6800. On a side note all those virtual currency are just plain wrong on the environment side, it does not make any sense in 2021 to have a currency that need heavy computation thus increasing…
We did think about it but wanted both the simplest possible consensus model and the widest possible distribution of coins, which led us to Proof of Work (geared to lower-power ASICs) and fixed block reward. Proof of Stake is much more complicated, is subjective, and doesn't provide for coin distribution.
Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#77It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for someone to reverse-engineer the drivers and remove the slowdown code.
I use CUDA for scientific calculations and I wonder how this will affect GPU performance since any detection algorithm may have fault positives. The only problem with such artificial limitation is that usually people who mine crypto are very inventive (if you have doubts about that just check laptop mining farms [1]), since they try to squeeze out as many H/s as possible. It is just a matter of time when the 'right'…
Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#78It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for someone to reverse-engineer the drivers and remove the slowdown code.
The case for this kind of video card "DRM" is actually stronger because miners either have to gamble and buy cards they know they won't be able to use until (or even if) a "crack" is available, or wait until a solution is available before buying them.
If the miners wait, this is a win for gamers and Nvidia PR because the cards will be bought by gamers since cards have a limited supply unlike video game licenses.
Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is why Ethereum is moving to proof-of-stake. Saying that virtual currency is wrong because the biggest currency is unwilling to innovate is wrong.
When?
Re: Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half
#80Why not just make a massively parallel ASIC and make the price competitive to the RTX 3060? This would be better than crippling the product via software drivers.