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Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Linux ruined the market for operating systems. The dot-com business model is to get viral and popular, then figure-out how to monitize. LoseThos is public domain.

I tried shareware with SimStructure. 6000 downloads and a grand total of $20. On top of that the big boys fucked with me by taking my untrademarked name.

Fuck with the man a little too.

I've had about 6000 downloads of LoseThos over the many years.

I've had well over 70,000 views of my video. I think that's worth $700 from YouTube. Obviously, not gonna make much that way.

A more important problem is my model of reality is broken. Download numbers don't obey the statistics I would expect. Fucken live in a contrived reality in many other ways, so it's natural to speculate it's all rigged by angels or something.

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Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Pure free market capitalism would be if I could buy your book the day it's released, make photocopies, and sell them outside the bookstore for cheaper. Pure free market capitalism would let me make a fake Rolex. It would let me reverse-engineer an iPod and sell it with the label "iPod." There are downsides to this, and that's why we have IP laws. But those laws are not free market capitalism; they are restraints on i…

I would call the Rolex/iPod examples fraud, wouldn't you? "Free market capitalism" is only rarely conflated with anarchy. (don't get me wrong, I agree that Intellectual Property is the opposite of "free market")

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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I know it's popular to hate lawyers here but enough is enough=> Entertainment Industry Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism Copyright is not bad. It has gotten out of hand, but the principle is good. Limited (again, it isn't really anymore, but it should be) protection. Just like if you built a car, created a drug, or manufactured any other widget and someone stole it after you expended the t…

You may want to re-examine your position that copyright is not bad. There's really not a lot of evidence that any "intellectual property" is good, where "good" is something like pareto efficiency. Any sort of "intellectual property" at all, when enforced by the government, is probably a drag on the economic system.

You could start your re-examination with "Against Intellectual Monopoly", http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/against.h... especially chapter 6.

Personally, it appears to me that a combination of regulatory capture and legislative capture has enabled a few large corporations to define "intellectual property" in such a way that what used to be accepted as inalienable rights of US citizens are widely suppressed. And that's going way, way too far.

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Pure free market capitalism would be if I could buy your book the day it's released, make photocopies, and sell them outside the bookstore for cheaper. Pure free market capitalism would let me make a fake Rolex. It would let me reverse-engineer an iPod and sell it with the label "iPod." There are downsides to this, and that's why we have IP laws. But those laws are not free market capitalism; they are restraints on i…

I would call the Rolex/iPod examples fraud, wouldn't you? "Free market capitalism" is only rarely conflated with anarchy. (don't get me wrong, I agree that Intellectual Property is the opposite of "free market")

Do people who buy fake Rolexes think they are real, or fakes? If you go into a jewellery shop and spend a lot of money on a Rolex but it turns out to be fake, then sure, it's probably fraud. But if you buy one out on the street for 10 bucks, then I hardly think it's fraud. But these things are independent of the physical form of the thing sold; it comes down to the understanding of what is being sold, as in a contract of sale, implicit or explicit.

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Pure free market capitalism would be if I could buy your book the day it's released, make photocopies, and sell them outside the bookstore for cheaper. Pure free market capitalism would let me make a fake Rolex. It would let me reverse-engineer an iPod and sell it with the label "iPod." There are downsides to this, and that's why we have IP laws. But those laws are not free market capitalism; they are restraints on i…

I would call the Rolex/iPod examples fraud, wouldn't you? "Free market capitalism" is only rarely conflated with anarchy. (don't get me wrong, I agree that Intellectual Property is the opposite of "free market")

More likely it would be trademark violation. After all, who is to decide what "Rolex" means, anyway?

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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I know it's popular to hate lawyers here but enough is enough=> Entertainment Industry Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism Copyright is not bad. It has gotten out of hand, but the principle is good. Limited (again, it isn't really anymore, but it should be) protection. Just like if you built a car, created a drug, or manufactured any other widget and someone stole it after you expended the t…

There is a conflict between civil liberties and continuation of pre-existing copyright systems when copying becomes easier. Is it better to have a copyright system or a free society?

I believe it actually comes down to this at the limit, most particularly for cultural media.

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would call the Rolex/iPod examples fraud, wouldn't you? "Free market capitalism" is only rarely conflated with anarchy. (don't get me wrong, I agree that Intellectual Property is the opposite of "free market")

More likely it would be trademark violation. After all, who is to decide what "Rolex" means, anyway?

Trademark is another form of IP.

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Can't argue with that. 'Course, geniuses like this particular copyright lawyer would note that laws prohibiting strip mining Yosemite "go against free market capitalism" too. More limits on "free market capitalism" will thankfully continue to elevate us a bit above what amounts to the brainless economics and political philosophies of cancer cells.

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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These ideas are reminiscent of the ideas of Andrew Joseph Galambos, who believed that one retained intellectual property rights indefinitely. (Reportedly, he believed that Thomas Paine coined the word "liberty" and put a nickel in a box every time he used the word so that he could pay Paine's descendants for royalties.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Joseph_Galambos

Re: Copyright Lawyer: The Public Domain Goes Against Free Market Capitalism

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Pure free market capitalism would be if I could buy your book the day it's released, make photocopies, and sell them outside the bookstore for cheaper. Pure free market capitalism would let me make a fake Rolex. It would let me reverse-engineer an iPod and sell it with the label "iPod." There are downsides to this, and that's why we have IP laws. But those laws are not free market capitalism; they are restraints on i…

These and many other rules comprise the "free market" as we know it.

A few rules establish an entire new market segment operating under "creative commons" or "copyleft" rules.

When I hear attacks on that system by companies external, all I perceive is chagrin. Petty jealousy, inability to compete.

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