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Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders

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Post by walrus01 »

dvdbloc wrote: post #106
walrus01 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a. absolute lowest latency I've seen to a major IX point in seattle is about 15.8ms. More often it's 22-23ms. On a longer term, averages between 20-30ms. That's for the combined total of four 550km paths through space plus terrestrial latency from their earth station to seattle. Keep in mind that on something like a DOCSIS3 cable coax last mile segment can have a minimum latency of 12-16ms from just the cablemodem to…

Just curious, how do you know it’s based on openwrt?

People have torn it down and messed about with it, I believe I recall seeing some found the test pads on the pcb and were able to watch its bootloader through a serial connection.

It is a fairly simple design.

https://youtu.be/ObCTB8ol3Ng

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Post by AmericanChopper »

anonAndOn wrote: post #83
samstave wrote: post #20

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UH??? Serious Question: So are the early adopters subsidizing the masses down the line? i.e. so at $100/mo + $600 start-up/set-up fee -- thats for early adopters ... so the "african farmer who can pay And the encryption policy? The Privacy policy? The data-mining-of-location-history policy? Yeah, it's a Nope from me dawg... And I folow Elon closely, and I like a lot of what he says and stands for - but he is at the b…

Your average African farmer may not get their own dish but I bet there are charities and NGO's who would be willing to pay for the dish and subsidize a local school's Starlink service. Throw a WiFi hotspot on the side of the building and now the village has access. This is a game changer that will open up the remote corners of the globe.

I used to work with an NGO that funded schools and orphanages in some particularly under-serviced parts of SEA. The retail prices of this would be affordable for a lot of institutions as it stands (places where the school fees were typically between $100-$200 USD/year). It doesn’t solve the problem of having reliable electricity, or any actual computing equipment. But I can certainly see some rather cool use cases for it.

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Post by blackoil »

It seems people getting most value of it are rich people from developed countries with dysfunctional monopolies. People in developing countries (my exp. in India/China and SEA) already have access to decent 4G at much better prices. Most people without not covered will not be able to afford it anyway.

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Post by gibybo »

Jedd wrote: post #80

I put a pre-order in a week ago, after the status changed a couple of days earlier (from 'please give us your email address so we can advise you' to 'we have a limited offering per region' - which is what's showing now). I'm about 250km north-west of Sydney, Australia, currently limited to a 25/5Mbps satellite circuit, with 600+ms RTT. I'm paying AUD$80 pcm, and have a data cap of 80 / 150 GB (peak/off-peak). Between…

>25/5Mbps satellite circuit

>data cap of 80 / 150 MB

So if you had the full 25 mbps available, you would hit your peak cap in 26 seconds? Do you only use it for email/text based applications?

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Post by lookdangerous »

walrus01 wrote: post #40

I have been using a starlink beta terminal for 3 months now, ask me whatever you want. Day job is senior network engineer for a regional-sized (4 US states) fiber based ISP. My most important message to everyone reading this is that it's not intended to compete with properly implemented wireline based services. It's going to absolutely blow away consumer-grade highly oversubscribed, bottom of the barrel ku and ka ban…

Can Starlink travel with you? My wife and I are discussing purchasing a tiny home on a trailer and the ability to get a decent connection _anywhere_ would be an amazing amenity.

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Post by walrus01 »

lookdangerous wrote: post #126
walrus01 wrote: post #40

I have been using a starlink beta terminal for 3 months now, ask me whatever you want. Day job is senior network engineer for a regional-sized (4 US states) fiber based ISP. My most important message to everyone reading this is that it's not intended to compete with properly implemented wireline based services. It's going to absolutely blow away consumer-grade highly oversubscribed, bottom of the barrel ku and ka ban…

Can Starlink travel with you? My wife and I are discussing purchasing a tiny home on a trailer and the ability to get a decent connection _anywhere_ would be an amazing amenity.

Not in the beta, no, they have not officially released plans for mobile terminals. I'm sure eventually there will be. It's in the faq on the website.

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Post by gpm »

lookdangerous wrote: post #126
walrus01 wrote: post #40

I have been using a starlink beta terminal for 3 months now, ask me whatever you want. Day job is senior network engineer for a regional-sized (4 US states) fiber based ISP. My most important message to everyone reading this is that it's not intended to compete with properly implemented wireline based services. It's going to absolutely blow away consumer-grade highly oversubscribed, bottom of the barrel ku and ka ban…

Can Starlink travel with you? My wife and I are discussing purchasing a tiny home on a trailer and the ability to get a decent connection _anywhere_ would be an amazing amenity.

In principle, yes. They've demoed it on fighter jets.

But they don't seem to be selling that capability to consumers just yet - presumably to avoid issues with too many subscribers congregating in one place. See the faq answers on "Can I travel" and "Can I change my service address" https://www.starlink.com/faq

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Post by walrus01 »

blackoil wrote: post #123

It seems people getting most value of it are rich people from developed countries with dysfunctional monopolies. People in developing countries (my exp. in India/China and SEA) already have access to decent 4G at much better prices. Most people without not covered will not be able to afford it anyway.

You clearly have not seen how much of Nepal is currently dependent on very costly geostationary satellite. Fiber and terrestrial point to point high capacity microwave isn't everywhere.

Or how much of Indonesia in remote places is dependent on satellite.

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