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How do I report this post, especially the last paragraph?! Edit: Figured it out. Hope he gets banned for it
I don't mind being wrong.
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People getting fired for an allegation that doesn't pan out, but by then their reputation and career are already destroyed. Or comments taken out of context or missing nuance. Or punishment out of proportion to the offense. In the past, boycotts were aimed at corporations. Not buying or consuming a specific product, or protesting that company. Cancel culture is more aimed at individuals. Suing for defamation can be e…
> In the past, boycotts were aimed at corporations. Not buying or consuming a specific product, or protesting that company. Cancel culture is more aimed at individuals. This isn't remotely new, though. For one very visible example in our industry, Lynn Conway got fired for coming out as transgender. Similarly, Turing was canceled for being gay. Politicians have been getting canceled for marital infidelity for most of…
"We have some power so we're gonna do it now, why you so mad" is pure antisocial behavior.
Any movement based on diversity, celebrating differences etc cannot afford that look.
In other words, other "skills" can partly substitute for looks. One generally moans with their eyes closed. One thing that bugs me is that it's often said "men are animals" in that they lack self control. Yet many women wear provocative clothing at work to gain favors. Such women want it both ways: the ability to tease and taunt, but a magic lid on those when they don't want advances. They want to play with fire BUT…
> many women wear provocative clothing at work to gain favors. Such women want it both ways
is egregious. No more of that on HN ever please.
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If you really want to read the flamewar, you can set 'showdead' to 'yes' in your profile. Just realize that by doing so you are contracting to see the worst that the internet has to offer this site, not just in this thread but in many others.
what interests me is: how do people maintain their integrity in such a foul environment? I mean if you can't look yourself in the mirror then how do you keep on creating anything?
I am not speaking from experience here.
"were" as in past tense? no longer happening? I have my doubts it has stopped.
It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…
I'll be bold and say it's the media industry has a problem. I remember family members having problems/reservations with Weinstein's behavior back in the 90's . People like Corey Feltman have been speaking up for years. But nobody cares because we're getting good cinema and TV, right? A huge part of these industries are based on 'favors' and 'networking'. Toss in the theory that you have a higher-than-baseline level o…
The media industry is in high demand. People want the fame associated with it and the money of stars. Making music is also enjoyable for a lot of people. For that you certainly need talent but there is more talent in this world than what is needed by the industry.
The result is a lot of competition, and when there is so much competition people will do a lot of things to get in. Closer to the HN crowd is the video game industry, you hear more stories of abuse than in other sectors, probably because, well, making a video game sound more fun than managing a customer database for a wholesaler.
Add to that that people in the media industry tend to be particularly attractive, and you have a greater chance for abuse to be sexual in nature.
It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…
> I mean, if Jeff Besos would come to you and say: I invest into your startup $100M if I can fuck you into the ass tree times, very high percentage of HN crowd would immediately say yes. Ew. This comment is atrocious and shows your privilege. It sounds like you haven't listened to many stories of women experiencing systemic abuse, misogyny and humiliation (and who experience most of this abuse in the music industry).…
Yes, the topic is provocative, but the art of being a good HN citizen involves learning to resist the most provocative bits of an article and the provokey reactions they induce in us.