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What I Worked On

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Re: What I Worked On

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I think you might be overestimating how much money pg's family had; I'm pretty sure they were squarely middle-class (e.g. the next sentence reads "The gold standard then was the Apple II, but a TRS-80 was good enough," and that took "years of nagging"). Strictly from a class point of view his background would have been risk-averse. But your point about the intellectual environment seems solid.

I think people have different definitions of "upper class". Maybe "Upper-middle class" would have been a better term, since pretty much everyone in the U.S. calls themselves some flavor of middle class. But my point is is that most people are not doing nearly as well financially as a mathematician/manager working at Westinghouse modeling nuclear reactors[1][2]. For example, 70% of americans have less than $1,000 of s…

That third link points to a survey by a bank that had 69% of respondents saying they had less than $1000 "in a savings account" in 2019. That's not the same thing as "in savings". "In savings" would include things like bonds, CDs, high-yield checking accounts, 401(k)s, IRAS, etc, etc, etc. Even if we exclude random equities in a brokerage account.

The proliferation of high-yield checking accounts in particular has significantly reduced the use of savings accounts for a lot of people who have quite a lot of "savings".

I keep seeing people cite scary-looking numbers like this (the other good example being the "half of Americans don't have $400 in cash on hand", which is ... not quite true; see https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/apr/19/kamala-har... ), but each time I dig into the actual data it turns out the actual question asked was not what people seem to think it was and the answers don't mean what they seem to mean, in the context of the actual question.

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I think that’s true but the “rich” part is not really relevant. Personally I can sort of relate to his life journey, and I come from a very much not rich immigrant family. I just remember not understanding why people cared about money instead of say learning more math. But looking back there was always an implicit understanding that no matter how bad things got I could crash on the couch and get a meal at my parents…

Ok, then treat it as "always having a plan B".

Sure, but is that super uncommon? I’m judging by the number of people I went to high school with who now live with their parents. They could all treat it as a fallback and otherwise follow in pg’s footsteps, but none of them do.

Re: What I Worked On

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This was a good read. I wish I could understand the mindset of people who can live spontaneously like this. I always plan so far in the future because I feel like it’s way too easy to ruin my life financially. Is this a generational thing? A class difference?

Definitely a class difference. From the essay > Computers were expensive in those days and it took me years of nagging before I convinced my father to buy one, a TRS-80, in about 1980." Based on a quick search, the price was probably about $1200-$2000 inflation adjusted dollars. I grew up in probably a similar environment, my dad was also a physicist, and I also had access to computers from a young age, and I was enc…

A large portion of the population seems perfectly happy leading a simple life. You don't need to worry about financial ruin if you work a basic job and have no debt. Nobody finds them not caring about money interesting since that's the rule. Also, many have a hard time believing others have different desires and will only believe those who can "prove it" by foregoing something they have easy access to.

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Yeah we had a very emotional essay this week from Chris Crawford whose life work failed to materialise.

I'm having trouble finding this. Any title or other info that you remember? I don't see it on his web page.

This is the HN thread for it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26139348

Re: What I Worked On

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> One of the most conspicuous patterns I've noticed in my life is how well it's worked, for me at least, to work on things that weren't prestigious. You might be able to reinterpret this through the lens of the old saying about how, during a gold rush, the people who "made shovels" made most of the money while a few miners got all the press. We don't usually hear about the folks making provisions or shovels. If you d…

I've heard the "sell shovels" advice a million times but I've never heard of anyone getting rich selling shovels.

How about:

AWS -> cloud platform shovel

Google -> web advertising shovel

Maybe these are bad examples? To a certain degree these created/heavily-defined the market they serve, whereas the "shovel" concept might require selling a solution to an existing market.

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This essay is very long. It would benefit from at least a summary at the top of each paragraph so you could scan through and read what you found interesting if you didn't have the time to read the entire essay. Quick check over 13500 words. At 500 word per page that's 27 pages. I am coming up (again quick check) with 45 minutes to read this (including footnotes). [1] [2] Are 'Trevor Blackwell, John Collison, Patrick…

I read the whole thing. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It didn't feel like 27 pages.

Fully understand. You work for (or at least know very well) PG. Others have been helped by PG. Invested in by PG or YC.

I am someone who doesn't fall into that category.

Re: What I Worked On

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This essay is very long. It would benefit from at least a summary at the top of each paragraph so you could scan through and read what you found interesting if you didn't have the time to read the entire essay. Quick check over 13500 words. At 500 word per page that's 27 pages. I am coming up (again quick check) with 45 minutes to read this (including footnotes). [1] [2] Are 'Trevor Blackwell, John Collison, Patrick…

If you want to read something quickly, just start at the end and scan backwards, looking for paragraphs that pop out at you. That way, you don't get sucked into the flow. A couple of centuries ago, it was common to put a summary at the beginning of each chapter in a book. But it would be very strange to do that for each paragraph in an essay, which itself is about as long as a book chapter. This essay was one of the…

I am not talking about a summary paragraph but a summary line or teaser line. (I probably used the wrong word).

Re: What I Worked On

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This comment really resonated with me, I found myself in this exact situation at 25, in a "very prestigious and selective place" for AI nonetheless. It took me a couple years to realize the smart people are just playing the game, the unsuspecting losers are "playing it straight" and getting endlessly frustrated. I found my balance by, frankly, taking advantage of a system that is FUBAR. Incidentally, I also took some…

I fear I'm one of these unsuspecting losers...except I guess that comment makes me suspecting. IDK, I don't want to play the game but it only gets worse in the corporate world. I wish there was a good solution, where someone could play it straight and get rewarded justly. Your art work is beautiful by the way.

Since we're commenting on a pg essay, IIRC startups are said to be the place where you CAN play it straight and get rewarded justly. The core idea being you can't fake or politic your way into making something users want.

I wish I could find the link to the essay that directly states this but I'm having trouble finding it now (and my Google-fu doesn't seem to be strong enough to locate it).

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I fear I'm one of these unsuspecting losers...except I guess that comment makes me suspecting. IDK, I don't want to play the game but it only gets worse in the corporate world. I wish there was a good solution, where someone could play it straight and get rewarded justly. Your art work is beautiful by the way.

Since we're commenting on a pg essay, IIRC startups are said to be the place where you CAN play it straight and get rewarded justly. The core idea being you can't fake or politic your way into making something users want. I wish I could find the link to the essay that directly states this but I'm having trouble finding it now (and my Google-fu doesn't seem to be strong enough to locate it).

Yeah i recall that essay. But getting a startup financed as a founder is a different story altogether. When you're asking people to invest on faith ( regardless of your MRR or what have you ), politics if back in the picture.

Re: What I Worked On

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I like the part that says 'One morning as I was lying on the mattress (without bed frame or sheets) I had an idea that made me sit up like a capital L' very much.
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