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Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
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Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#422Does Apple pay tax on that 30% to the EU for sales in the EU?
well apple cannot pay tax to a group of institutions that don’t have any business collecting taxes.
and this is because taxes are national matters. the EU can try some legal ways of forcing some countries to take more or less tax, but all of those tries are not only being litigated, but also pushed against by the national governments.
Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#423I can hardly wait to use Amazon App Store to install Amazon and then open up the Epic Game Store to install random game and then open up EA Game Store to install random game and then open up Facebook App Store to install Facebook and then open up the Apple App Store to install the Blizzard App Store to install Hearthstone and then go back to the Apple App Store and update the Blizzard App Store so I can get the lates…
> I can hardly wait to use Amazon App Store to install Amazon and then open up the Epic Game Store to install random game and then open up EA Game Store to install random game and then open up Facebook App Store to install Facebook and then open up the Apple App Store to install the Blizzard App Store to install Hearthstone and then go back to the Apple App Store and update the Blizzard App Store so I can get the lat…
What's a car yard? I assume based on the context a dealer?
And yes I would love to go to a mall with all the different cars available. Would make it easier to see all available options and pick the best one for me (rather then pick the best one from Ford for me).
Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
You install those yourself you know. I'd rather have a choice than not. I feel your pain in the sense that that I think user UX will take a hit, but I think that's less important than breaking the monopoly of the current app store. For example, I can't find apps with pornography or other types of things the high overlords at apple or Google have deemed inappropriate for me to have. That's bad. Apparently apps like Ma…
> It'd be nice if I can choose what I want to see. Have I got news for you?! You can choose exactly what you want to see. There's a very cool "App Store" on your iPhone right now. Somebody in marketing named it "Safari" -- IKR! pfft; -- Safari is one of the best App Stores out there. It has this neat interface called "URLs" where you "search" for Apps and apparently they run on this HTML5 voodoo magic; which is a set…
You can even hit the share button then 'add to home screen' if you want easy access to the site without the URL bar (at least for PWAs; regular sites will just open a safari tab).
Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#425I can hardly wait to use Amazon App Store to install Amazon and then open up the Epic Game Store to install random game and then open up EA Game Store to install random game and then open up Facebook App Store to install Facebook and then open up the Apple App Store to install the Blizzard App Store to install Hearthstone and then go back to the Apple App Store and update the Blizzard App Store so I can get the lates…
If only Apple could, say, permit payments outside of the Apple store for apps installed from the store...
This was the real problem. Apple has to get a cut if you run the app on an Apple-made device and either sell the software or charge money for digital goods at all.
There is only upside for Apple with these restrictions, so I see them continuing to fight this fight with the excuse being "Customer experience, security concerns," etc, where the reality is maintaining the wall and gate in their garden.
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#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
App store are good, not argument. The inability of side loading beside the store is what is being critisized.
That's literally a major reason why people buy Apple products, though. If you can't sideload things, there's literally no chance of your phone being compromised by those things.
> If you can't sideload things
Ok, and if you simply had a setting that you could turn on, that make it so your phone couldn't side load, then you still get what you want.
Everyone wins, by simply giving you the option to turn off side loading, but letting others choose to do so if they want to.
Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#427I can hardly wait to use Amazon App Store to install Amazon and then open up the Epic Game Store to install random game and then open up EA Game Store to install random game and then open up Facebook App Store to install Facebook and then open up the Apple App Store to install the Blizzard App Store to install Hearthstone and then go back to the Apple App Store and update the Blizzard App Store so I can get the lates…
Say you had the choice between:
1. Buy game X from Apple's app store for $39.00.
2. Buy game X from X's own app store for $30.00.
Would you install X's app store then? Would you at least want the option of choosing that path?
Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#428Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not parasitic of Valve, though. Valve created the storefront and platform that has all of those customers baked into it. EA is not just paying 30% for the privilege of selling their game, they're paying for the customer base that they haven't had to work to establish on that platform.
It is parasitic, but I think in the bigger scheme of things, Valve is a lesser evil than Epic, which is in itself a lesser evil than Apple. Valve is investing in its own capital as well as the infrastructure for the PC gaming industry at large (Vulkan and driver improvements), whereas Epic has no endgame but to gain market share using bottomless VC pockets. Apple, while a company with some merits, utilizes vertical i…
You and I must have different definitions of parasitic. Apple is providing services to developers and, in exchange is receiving payment for that. Developers shouldn't be able to take advantage of the benefits of the platform without paying for it.
Everything else you said is irrelevant.
Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#429Why is everyone talking about allowing third-party app stores and not side-loaded apps?
Because Epic Games is in the title, and they already have a store on Mac+Windows.
Re: Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint
#430I can hardly wait to use Amazon App Store to install Amazon and then open up the Epic Game Store to install random game and then open up EA Game Store to install random game and then open up Facebook App Store to install Facebook and then open up the Apple App Store to install the Blizzard App Store to install Hearthstone and then go back to the Apple App Store and update the Blizzard App Store so I can get the lates…
If only Apple could, say, permit payments outside of the Apple store for apps installed from the store... This was the real problem. Apple has to get a cut if you run the app on an Apple-made device and either sell the software or charge money for digital goods at all. There is only upside for Apple with these restrictions, so I see them continuing to fight this fight with the excuse being "Customer experience, secur…
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