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TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Re: TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Post by lol768 »

leesalminen wrote: post #145
lol768 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I can count on one hand the number of right-to-be-forgotten requests the team I work with has ever received in the last three years (with 15x the users). We've had a couple more subject access requests than that, but we'd already shipped pretty comprehensive self-service tools for retrieving data that met the vast majority of our user's needs. This doesn't seem like an unreasonable thing to expect a service t…

Unsure of how you extrapolated the total number of users from my previous statements. We were a B2B SaaS where our customers each served 10,000s of end users, who also had access to our platform with their data stored within. In aggregate we’re talking 25mm+ total users in my case. At the time, being that the DPO role was new we didn’t know how many requests to expect. And while the law may allow for 30 days, our cus…

> Unsure of how you extrapolated the total number of users from my previous statements. We were a B2B SaaS where our customers each served 10,000s of end users, who also had access to our platform with their data stored within. In aggregate we’re talking 25mm+ total users in my case.

Doesn't that make you a data processor rather than a data controller - i.e. not at all your problem for your end user's end users?

Re: TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Post by kalleboo »

bzb6 wrote: post #76
piva00 wrote: post #68

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No, the legislators didn't want the pop-ups to be annoying. They didn't even require pop-ups. Who wants the pop-ups to be annoying and riddled with dark patterns are the ones implementing it, exactly to cause this kind of reaction on you so you start hating the law, not the ones who are trying their best to skirt around it, to find the loopholes and abuse them. To make your experience as poor as possible while being…

I know the law and how bloody stupid it is. Third party cookies and ad blockers are configurable in your browser, if you don’t configure them then it’s your fault.

Cookies can be easily blocked, but blocking tracking in general is much harder https://coveryourtracks.eff.org

Re: TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Post by sn_master »

iso1631 wrote: post #127
sn_master wrote: post #80

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How so? Almost every single one uses cookies and I press I agree anyway because otherwise I'll be off more than half the internet.

HN doesn't seem to have a problem, thus showing sites in general don't need to have a problem

HN is unique in that it doesn't have or care to have ads. Same for GitHub and websites owned by big companies that don't depend on ads as a primary revenue source.

Re: TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Post by CountDrewku »

throwawayfrauds wrote: post #167

Meanwhile the Biden administration decided to pull back any restrictions on TikTok in the US.

Can't upset our Chinese overlords. Say what you want about Trump but at least he was willing to stand up to China.

buT AmEriCA is BaD toO. Yeah but we don't have concentration camps for people right now. I think I'll take the US.

Re: TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Post by j1elo »

johnisgood wrote: post #163
j1elo wrote: post #92

Say there is this new law that forbids to smoke inside public places (read: restaurants, bars, pubs). For the sake of the metaphor, say these places received some benefit from tobacco companies from having people smoke, so naturally they react to this law by remembering in the most annoying ways how you cannot smoke inside because of those pesky lawmakers (and not because people really voted in favor of less smoking…

I had no idea what you were talking about until I read other comments about annoying modals and whatnot. I do not get these with uBlock Origin, and uMatrix installed. You should install uBlock Origin at least. If I disable it, I get that modal people are talking about.

I definitely don't see 99% of them, thanks to uBlock Origin with the "Fanboy's Annoyance" (which itself includes "EasyList Cookie List").

The other 1% is from websites which do break miseraby when the cookie modal has not been actually accepted or rejected by the user, in which cases the uBlock filter needs to be disabled in order to be able to reject the thing.

Re: TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Post by j1elo »

xg15 wrote: post #168
j1elo wrote: post #92

Say there is this new law that forbids to smoke inside public places (read: restaurants, bars, pubs). For the sake of the metaphor, say these places received some benefit from tobacco companies from having people smoke, so naturally they react to this law by remembering in the most annoying ways how you cannot smoke inside because of those pesky lawmakers (and not because people really voted in favor of less smoking…

> But give it time, and years later most if not all restaurants and customers have accepted the new situation, offering an overall better experience for everybody involved. And I think that's what will eventually happen with the cookie law now that the GDPR has made more obvious and annoying the whole process. I really hope that, but right now, I'm not optimistic. With smoking and restaurants, even if the tobacco ind…

I agree that's where the metaphor falls short... I wanted to talk about how these big changes in regulations, affecting how mostly everybody had been doing business until that moment, tend to be strongly rejected by affected parties, but they tend to be worth it on the long term, and people end up getting comfortable again under the new rules.

But you're right that in this case the problem is that most websites have been "cheating" by supporting themselves on shady stuff, and now that rules and laws are being reviewed to cut this possibility out, here comes the crying.

Re: TikTok hit with consumer law breaches complaints across Europe

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Post by johnisgood »

j1elo wrote: post #175
johnisgood wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had no idea what you were talking about until I read other comments about annoying modals and whatnot. I do not get these with uBlock Origin, and uMatrix installed. You should install uBlock Origin at least. If I disable it, I get that modal people are talking about.

I definitely don't see 99% of them, thanks to uBlock Origin with the "Fanboy's Annoyance" (which itself includes "EasyList Cookie List"). The other 1% is from websites which do break miseraby when the cookie modal has not been actually accepted or rejected by the user, in which cases the uBlock filter needs to be disabled in order to be able to reject the thing.

I found that I often have to disable uBlock Origin to access a website. Most of the time I just avoid the website, but there are times when I cannot do that (must access the site).

Sometimes I can disable, get on the website, then enable again, and it works (after refresh). I use it to block elements on Discord, for example, which did not run with uBlock Origin enabled initially (from what I recall, that is).

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