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Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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Re: Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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A lot of interesting things here, but also the usual "billionaire complaining about all these entitled employees" vibes.

The “I’m a passionate guy so I can’t communicate without cursing” part was entertaining.

I worked for a guy like that named Mike Homer. There were Wired articles about “is Homer a jerk or just passionate?”

It turns out he actually had Mad Cow disease (really).

Re: Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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post #3

A lot of interesting things here, but also the usual "billionaire complaining about all these entitled employees" vibes.

The “I’m a passionate guy so I can’t communicate without cursing” part was entertaining.

Ugh, I'm this guy and I hate myself for it.

I've found that I really have to detach from the situation to use less curse words, such as counting to 5 mentally before saying _anything_.

Any other tips for similarly terrible people such as myself?

Re: Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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post #20
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole thing is one red flag after another, but the biggest standout to me is the author being annoyed coworkers are taking personal days. That’s what they’re there for! When I don’t want to work, I use the benefit that lets me not work.

Try managing a team where people take last minute personal days all the time, without having to give advance notice or a reason.

If you're running deadlines so tight or your bench is so shallow that any employee ducking out a day here and there is causing big problems, you have a planning/staffing problem.

The spontaneous employee vacation days are just making that problem more obvious.

Re: Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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post #20
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole thing is one red flag after another, but the biggest standout to me is the author being annoyed coworkers are taking personal days. That’s what they’re there for! When I don’t want to work, I use the benefit that lets me not work.

Try managing a team where people take last minute personal days all the time, without having to give advance notice or a reason.

I mean, there’s an upper bound on how often that can happen (how many personal days people have). Those days are intended to be used at short notice. So if people using them is a problem for the team, imo the team is not correctly matched to the workload.

I do think we often undersize our teams by ignoring the impact of vacation and personal time in taking on work ... but that’s not the fault of the people using the time they are entitled to as part of their compensation.

Re: Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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Do you really have to wear those hats when you join Google? How long do you have to wear them for?

>Do you really have to wear those hats when you join Google?

Nope. Most people put them on for a selfie or two then throw them on a shelf.

Re: Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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post #24

Another "leader" who complains about employees wanting work life balance and they are extremely entitled. These are the type of managers you want to avoid. I'm sure many Googlers are happy you left.

It's a good article with a lot of solid points, but that section had me rolling my eyes. Sure reads like someone pining for exploitative "startup" culture to get more than what they are paying for out of their employees. If you consistently feel the need to impinge on your employees weekends or PTO, that's a management failure, not an entitled employee problem.

Re: Why did I leave Google or, why did I stay so long?

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Do companies actually find themselves tons of employees that care so deeply about their mission that they sacrifice pay, equity, promotions, life interests, weekends, and benefits for "the cause"?

I get having a team of 20 that is like this, but it does not seem like a concept that scales unless you are SpaceX.

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