> However he left the music business in the mid-90s to become a teacher and is now president of Saint Louis School in his native Hawaii.
Interesting career choice :)
'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
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#12It's hard to imagine this is only the music industry. Human use sex as a weapon and a tool all the time. True, it might be more useful in the music industry but why would sex as currency only exist there?
Where there are humans, there is sex. The obviousness of how that plays out may differ but the underlying theme is universal.
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#13It makes perfect sense.
Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail.
Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor.
If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an opportunity to earn millions is pretty damn reasonable transaction. I mean, if Jeff Besos would come to you and say: I invest into your startup $100M if I can fuck you into the ass tree times, very high percentage of HN crowd would immediately say yes.
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#14Any time you have an industry where the number of people who want to do the work vastly outstrips demand and where there are gatekeepers, you are going to get a culture of abuse.
It comes in various forms: sexual or other inappropriate favors for advancement, verbal abuse, or just abusive working conditions like sweatshop hours and burnout culture.
Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
#15It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…
Now we’re just haggling over the price.
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#16Everybody involved has always known and assumed that so much that it's almost a cliché. I mean, people were warning about predatory record producers since the 60s or so. Since I'm not against prostitution either, I can't really be angry about this old hat. (Not that I think it's good.)
Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
#17It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…
Now we’re just haggling over the price.
I was haggling on if it had to be Jeff Bezos.
Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
#18It's hard to imagine this is only the music industry. Human use sex as a weapon and a tool all the time. True, it might be more useful in the music industry but why would sex as currency only exist there? Where there are humans, there is sex. The obviousness of how that plays out may differ but the underlying theme is universal.
Reminds me of a (untasteful) joke in Family Guy:
A women goes to the "Penguin" Publishing, where the owner is a penguin and asks for her book to be published. The penguin makes the joke: "If you want your book in black and white, black and white has to be in you."
I feel like this is based on a true story.
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#19what interests me is: how do people maintain their integrity in such a foul environment? I mean if you can't look yourself in the mirror then how do you keep on creating anything?
You overestimate the amount of integrity people have.
Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
#20It's hard to imagine this is only the music industry. Human use sex as a weapon and a tool all the time. True, it might be more useful in the music industry but why would sex as currency only exist there? Where there are humans, there is sex. The obviousness of how that plays out may differ but the underlying theme is universal.
It depends. It’s a matter of how normalized the vice is. If everyone did coke in the 80s, it is much easier for one not to feel any one way about it.
It’s not normal to fuck your way to the top or use your power for sex everywhere. It’s abnormal in many places.
Avoid systems that make you feel uneasy. Whoring/pimping ain’t for everyone. The same way I’d say avoid tech if hyper competition makes you uneasy.