I was worried when LastPass was bought up by LogMeIn, but stuck with it. Then LastPass tripled the price. I went from a premium to a free tier user. Now LastPass pulls this, and now I'm not even a user. Hello premium BitWarden.
Changes to LastPass Free
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#342LastPass costs $36 per year. Operating on the principle of being the customer and not the product, that seems very reasonable for a secure way to store and share the keys to my digital life. That said, it does make it a little bit harder for me to onboard my friends and family when they ask. One of the selling points has always been "Yes, you can use it on your phone and laptop" and "no, it doesn't cost anything".
I used to subscribe, then the service was acquired and the price doubled so I stopped subscribing and relied on the free tier. With this announcement I think it's time to move on (probably to Bitwarden)
I just did.
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#343This is a feature not a productTM. I switched to using safari’s password sync across mobile and desktop. It only works on iPhones and macOS desktop safari, but I adjusted my workflow. It’s both free, and reliable as long as Apple supports it. But I trust Apple to exist or migrate better than a dedicated product company like lastpass. Both for a decent user workflow and for not being breached (much scarier to me). I k…
> But I trust Apple to exist or migrate better than a dedicated product company I'm staring at my huge Aperture photo library (with tags, edits, versions and albums). Apple left me hanging. I would not assume anything of a huge company.
For all kinds of reasons, I hate what they did there, abandoning Aperture functionality — there remains zero other software that fills what Aperture did for me. Even though Capture One and Adobe Lightroom Classic can both import from it to a degree:
https://learn.captureone.com/blog-posts/migrating-apple-aper...
That said, Aperture could still open an Aperture library using the final versions of Aperture up until Mojave. So from the time Aperture was discontinued, Aperture itself worked through six versions of MacOS, until Catalina.
As of Catalina, Aperture no longer ran native[1], but Photos itself could still open and migrate those libraries (note: I have not tried in Big Sur). While Photos didn’t recognize everything initially, before Aperture became unsupported, Photos did eventually handle tags, non-destructive edits, JPEG+RAW pairs, referenced files, and albums.
Apple eventually got the parity enough I was able to move a quarter million photos over into Photos, and haven’t needed to re-open Aperture in a couple years. While I haven’t needed it, I did test the software linked in [1] below, and it worked great.
What to do if you’re on Catalina or newer, and need to migrate Aperture to Photos: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209594
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1. NOTE: Open Aperture on Big Sur or Catalina using ‘Retroactive’: https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive
From README: ”All Aperture features should be available except for playing videos, exporting slideshows, Photo Stream, and iCloud Photo Sharing. If RAW photos can't be opened, you need to reprocess them.”
Read more: https://petapixel.com/2019/10/29/this-app-lets-you-use-apple...
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#344This is a feature not a productTM. I switched to using safari’s password sync across mobile and desktop. It only works on iPhones and macOS desktop safari, but I adjusted my workflow. It’s both free, and reliable as long as Apple supports it. But I trust Apple to exist or migrate better than a dedicated product company like lastpass. Both for a decent user workflow and for not being breached (much scarier to me). I k…
What you need to worry about being tightly integrated with Apple is not a hacker getting your data - it is being stuck with you or your surviving family not having access to your own data. This is my primary worry about walled gardens such as Apple or Google where you could be locked out of your own data because, you know, you looked at your phone the wrong way. In this instance, you are better of relying on someone…
If you’re worried less about hackers and more about big brother, such as crossing borders, they also have a Travel mode that drops from your devices any password vaults not marked safe for Travel. Then toggle them back on after you don’t consider yourself or your data subject to inspection.
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#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Also artificial limits, especially when companies limit existing features like this piss me off (cough google photos cough). On the one hand, I tend to agree that changning existing features to paid is not-great (disclaimer, I was paying for Google Photos/One/Whatever even before they announced the changes), I wouldn't call space limits "artificial"
Why isn't it artificial? If they already had sync between devices, making it unavailable is purely artificial.
The reply to me correctly pointed out that I compared it to the new google photos storage restrictions which could be interpreted as not being artificial, not that the lastpass restriction aren't.
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#346I used to be a payed subscriber, and then they made all the features I used free. For some reason, it frustrated me that they made it free, because I felt they were now gunning for some monetization scheme, where I'd rather they just focused on an affordable sustainable offering.
Agreed, a lot of mixed messaging from them over the last few years. I also used to happily pay the $12/year for mobile access but they strangely got rid of that requirement and added no value to the paid version. I'm just gonna pay the $36/year at this point because I don't feel like disrupting my working password system. But it feels like dating a person who doesn't know what they want.
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#347I still think LastPass is a good product and good value.
I agree. 1Password has done tons of shady stuff too, far worse than this, IMO.
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#348The title is slightly off. The limit is to a single device type, not device. If you only use LastPass on 2 devices of the same type (on your desktop and your laptop or if you only use it on your Mobile and your Tablet) you will be fine to stay on Free, However if you use it on your Desktop and your Mobile (like me) you will need to swap password managers or pay up for the service. Before LogMeIn brought them the serv…
>would rather support something like KeePass than support LastPass. curious what "support" means in this context, as keepass is free. do you donate or otherwise contribute to the project, or does support just mean use?
At this moment in time, I'm not against paying for my password manager as it has been handy to me. However because I feel that LastPass has pulled their product from me with a demand to pay up to continue to use it, it feels different to me then it would be for me to opt into a paid account because I liked the service but the free account would probally work just fine for my use case (The current free tier of Bitwarden for example).
So at this point in time I would rather switch providers and give them the 30 bucks LastPass are now demanding for my use case out of the sheer principle of the matter.
So If I do Swap to KeePass or KeePassXC I will be donating that 30 bucks to them. If I swap to something like Bitwarden I'll pay them for what ever package is as close to that $30.
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#349I very happily pay $10/year for Bitwarden. It is in my opinion superior to Lastpass, and I don't have the doubts of the corporate governance.
I've tried really, _really_ hard to like Bitwarden. But I ran into 2 huge issues, that ended up being blockers for me: 1. Sharing is super-confusing. I was trying to organize things for my mom, as well for my wife and I. And you have to create these "organizations". And they makes things really confusing for a variety of reasons. They are a different pricing/SKU. And the UX around them is not good. It's not clear whe…
Agreed on the sharing - I was trying to arrange a family plan for 5 people, and happy to pay $10*5 a year (coming from a shared lastpass instance), but have given up trying to figure out how sharing works. Ideally every person would have their own personal vault and there would be a shared vault for "family" accounts, that you don't explicitly have to switch to in order to use. We just share master passwords and manually sync things, but it seems like a missed opportunity to upsell individuals into family or small team plans with just a few new sharing features..
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#350Those of you looking for an alternative, consider moving your data to a Keepass database. Its a more or less open file format, which a lot of different tools can read. My goto tool currently is Keeweb - https://keeweb.info/ . Its basically a SPA, can be used offline or online. Keeweb + a google drive hosted keepass database file keeps my passwords available and synced across 5-6 different devices.
Never again on Keepass. The dollar savings is not worth the hassle of it. You have to use a different client on every device because the official client is Windows only, and I’ve even experienced bugs a client I used that caused me to lose data entered into secure notes. And while a single page app client is nice, it’s not good for password managers. 1Password integrates with the iOS password management API and brows…
> All that hassle so that you can save $10 a year.
You are talking as if KeePass's only advantage is being free and it is only preferred by people who cheapen out. That's not true, just as it's not true for similar arguments for Android vs iOS, or Linux vs Windows, or Windows vs MacOS. People have different preferences and priorities.
Even if the pricing was reversed, I am sure many people would prefer KeePass, as I do, just as in general preferring paid desktop programs to free online services.
> something as useful and vital as a password manager
Indeed, even if one day I give in and start using those online services for everything, something as vital as a password manager would be one of the last places where I would cave in.
I understand that KeePass wasn't for you, and it probably isn't for heavy mobile users as it is primarily a desktop program (official KeePass client works on macOS and Linux by the way, though it feels more at home in Windows). I am sure you could find excellent mobile clients too (I wouldn't know as I never had the need), but I understand that lack of official clients and having to choose among non-official clients, some of whom might be buggy, can be frustrating. But it is perfect for my use case, and for my non-technical parents that I introduced it to, regardless of price.