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Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by budafish »

falcolas wrote: post #234
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to reply "the problem with 1password is they have no Linux support," but it looks like Linux support actually got added late last year! (Or at least there's an open beta.) https://blog.1password.com/1password-for-linux-beta-is-now-o... Anyone used both 1password and Bitwarden? I'm using Bitwarden right now, but I dislike the fact that their desktop app is Electron based.

Keepass is another cross-platform option (open source), though the UI on non-windows environments is a bit... crap. Nontheless, it works, and it works well.

Keeweb is what I use on all platforms. Yeah it's an electron app but it supports natively storing the keepass file in the cloud. Works online or offline and has global autotype.

Works great for me!

https://keeweb.info/

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by Kwpolska »

falcolas wrote: post #234
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to reply "the problem with 1password is they have no Linux support," but it looks like Linux support actually got added late last year! (Or at least there's an open beta.) https://blog.1password.com/1password-for-linux-beta-is-now-o... Anyone used both 1password and Bitwarden? I'm using Bitwarden right now, but I dislike the fact that their desktop app is Electron based.

Keepass is another cross-platform option (open source), though the UI on non-windows environments is a bit... crap. Nontheless, it works, and it works well.

KeePassXC is a modern fork that uses Qt for its UI, and it looks great on all platforms.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by CJefferson »

therobot24 wrote: post #28
jdauriemma wrote: post #4

LastPass is making a huge change to their Free product and giving users only a month to adjust. This is irresponsible at best. I completely empathize with the notion that good software is worth paying for, but a widely-used password manager needs to provide more time for users to transition into another product if they choose not to convert to paid.

> This is irresponsible at best. Not sure i agree, they make it very easy to export your info/passwords and are just returning to a previous business model. As another user here commented, it only took 15 min to switch to another option. > but a widely-used password manager needs to provide more time for users to transition into another product if they choose not to convert to paid curious how much time that would be

I think 3 months is much more reasonable, at least. Doing this in the middle of a pandemic is actively hostile. My parents are using lastpass. I'm going to pay for a license for them until the pandemic is over for simplicity.

As soon as I can physically visit them again I'm switching them over to something else in principle, and I'm changing to something else today (which includes cancelling my personal paid-for lastpass account).

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by ketzo »

I can't tell you how bizarre it is to me that despite there being four different (quite popular!) offerings in the password manager space, there's not one that really offers, to me, what I would call even a competent UI/UX.

From personal experience, this is my ranking of the Big Four in terms of "does it just fucking work every time I press the button":

1. LastPass

2. 1Password

3. Bitwarden

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15. KeePass

As a result, I use LastPass. It's fine. It works perfectly about 80% of the time. I'll probably end up upgrading to Premium with this change. I'm fine with their current offer of $2.25/mo billed annually -- I definitely get more value than that out of the software given the amount of passwords I generate/save/retrieve on a daily basis.

But even LastPass has what I personally consider a deeply unreliable UI! About 1 in 3 times I open the Chrome extension, it just.... doesn't work?

It's absolutely wild to me. It's nuts, man! Maybe I'm just a frontend developer, so I get extra crotchety about shitty frontends. But c'mon! It's a consumer grade product that you interact with almost entirely through a 200x400px window. And that window doesn't respond to mouse hover half the goddamn time.

Anyway.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by socksy »

tobib wrote: post #219
vultour wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KeePass database stored in Dropbox is free.

I was a happy user of that workflow until I started working for an organization that blocked Dropbox but not any of the browser plugin based password managers. Also while free, arguably the UX is not very good especially on mobile, unless Keepass integrates the way Lastpass, 1Password, et al do. I cannot imagine convincing any of my non-tech friends to go this route.

keepass2android supports autofill across apps and is something of of a lifesaver for me, but I can't speak for iOS apps

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by kstrauser »

falcolas wrote: post #258
johnchristopher wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keepass is not a Web first app. There are extensions and workarounds but considering the nature of its file based database it can never be as smooth as solutions like bitwarden and others. At work we share a Keepass file on a nextcloud instance and it's a giant PITA.

::Personal Opinion Warning:: When it comes to security, smoothness is kinda low on my priority list. I'm fine swapping windows to copy/paste values, or pressing a hotkey.

It's very high on my priority list. I want my employees to want to use a password manager because it's so convenient. A less perfect system that actually gets used adds more security than a more perfect system that no one likes.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by fencepost »

falcolas wrote: post #234
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to reply "the problem with 1password is they have no Linux support," but it looks like Linux support actually got added late last year! (Or at least there's an open beta.) https://blog.1password.com/1password-for-linux-beta-is-now-o... Anyone used both 1password and Bitwarden? I'm using Bitwarden right now, but I dislike the fact that their desktop app is Electron based.

Keepass is another cross-platform option (open source), though the UI on non-windows environments is a bit... crap. Nontheless, it works, and it works well.

My biggest problem with Keepass is that the integrations aren't part of the core project. Want browser integration? Great, pick one (or more depending on browser choices) of multiple projects from pseudonymous/anonymous people, install it and give it access to your password store. Want mobile? Do the same.

Last time I looked at it the very nature of the Keepass ecosystem basically meant that you had a ton of different people with commit privileges to different areas, and no real reason to trust any of them.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by driverdan »

mesid wrote: post #197
blunte wrote: post #55

I very happily pay $10/year for Bitwarden. It is in my opinion superior to Lastpass, and I don't have the doubts of the corporate governance.

I'm a bit concerned that Bitwarden might also follow a similar path later on, if we keep using the free version. Any thoughts on that?

Hopefully they do. Services as important as a password manager should be paid unless you host it yourself. Bitwarden is only $10 a year.
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