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Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by erikerikson »

syntheticnature wrote: post #117
bognition wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The functionality is a commodity but what about the UX? MP3 players were fairly common when the iPod came out but the iPod crushed all the competition? Why because the UX was simply better. Without a doubt the password manager with the best UX is 1Password. Last year ago I got my tech-averse partner to set it up on her phone, the entire process took about 10 minutes and then it was done. She's never asked for me help…

I was a paid Lastpass user who switched to Bitwarden a few years back because of the UX/functionality issues Lastpass had been developing. I've heard 1password has better UX; I'd describe Bitwarden's UX as similar to the Lastpass of 5-7 years ago.

I transitioned to 1Password after many years of LastPass and have been quite pleased.

I continue to harbor some concerns about the emergency workflows (what happens in case of death or disablement) but otherwise it's just been solid. LastPass felt, on the other hand, like it was increasingly neglected.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by jes »

Tomte wrote: post #140
bognition wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The functionality is a commodity but what about the UX? MP3 players were fairly common when the iPod came out but the iPod crushed all the competition? Why because the UX was simply better. Without a doubt the password manager with the best UX is 1Password. Last year ago I got my tech-averse partner to set it up on her phone, the entire process took about 10 minutes and then it was done. She's never asked for me help…

> Without a doubt the password manager with the best UX is 1Password. I doubt that. Navigating the sync options and finding one that works with Android phone, iPad and Windows PC was impossible. Throw in two vault formats (with implications for which sync option can work), and it's a mess. That was the paid standalone version, not the subscription model (that was when I finally jumped ship).

I’ve used 1Password for years.

I would pay more for greater simplicity.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

pdimitar wrote: post #78

Surprised that nobody here mentions Enpass. Its mobile app is paid, sure, but it's a one-time cost and it's using an AES-256 encrypted local sqlite3 DB that can be synchronized with several popular cloud storage options: Dropbox, OneDrive and any WebDAV server. So you have your credentials vault with you everywhere. Very happy user for years. No subscriptions, desktop app is free, you just pay for your iOS / Android…

How is its recovery feature? Does it keep a backup database file in case of data corruption?

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by nabilhat »

OminousWeapons wrote: post #99
levosmetalo wrote: post #26

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LastPass is a commodity. There are many free or open-source alternatives that are as reliable and as secure as LastPass that provide similar functionality. It's hard to justify even the small price for a commodity service unless you provide the best possible solution, and sometimes even that is not enough. I switched from LastPass premium that costed 15$ per year a few years ago to Bitwarden because LastPass could re…

I've been debating making this switch myself. How time consuming was the transition? Did you have to do much manual data entry or does bitwarden have the ability to reliably import lastpass data?

Bitwarden is more reliable at importing data exported from Lastpass than Lastpass is at exporting your data. Export bugs happen, but their forum and /r/lastpass are always quick to come up with workarounds for Lastpass bugs.

Shared passwords aren't included in the Lastpass export, at least at the time I last exported from Lastpass.

The only functionality I do miss from Lastpass is the option to generate the short pronounceable strings I use to create usernames, like the one I'm using now.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

bbkane wrote: post #91
pdimitar wrote: post #78

Surprised that nobody here mentions Enpass. Its mobile app is paid, sure, but it's a one-time cost and it's using an AES-256 encrypted local sqlite3 DB that can be synchronized with several popular cloud storage options: Dropbox, OneDrive and any WebDAV server. So you have your credentials vault with you everywhere. Very happy user for years. No subscriptions, desktop app is free, you just pay for your iOS / Android…

I use a similar solution- KeePassXC on desktop syncing the encrypted passwords to Keepass2Android via Dropbox.

I used KeePass years ago, but I stopped using it because at the time, the Linux and Android apps were really bad.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by Cicero22 »

ChrisRR wrote: post #145

I think the issue with lastpass is its popularity, which would make it a target for hackers. If someone brute forces your password, then they've got access to everything Are there any less popular but well featured password managers, or any roll your own solutions that wouldn't be so easily targeted

I haven't personally done this, but you can host your own bitwarden server: https://bitwarden.com/help/article/install-on-premise/

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by mod »

Even though I know the answer, I think it's interesting to note that none of the "questions" posed ask "Why?"

I guess they felt the obvious cash grab was obvious enough to have no need for explanation.

I'll be moving off to somewhere else, despite being pretty deeply entrenched in lastpass. Hopefully there are some migration tools available. I have hundreds, maybe thousands of passwords stored--generated passwords which I do not know at all.

Based on comments here, I'm likely to end up with a self-hosted bitwarden. I'll feel better about that, anyway. I'm trying to eliminate my cloud dependencies, besides my VPS.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by m-chrzan »

peach45 wrote: post #71

Good thing I use pass https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pass

pass is great. I use the dmenu script to get passwords into my clipboard without leaving the keyboard or being locked into browsers with a supported extension.

As others have mentioned, the Android app has slight issues, but they're not dealbreakers for me.

There's some interesting pass plugins, e.g. pass-otp. You can get 2FA passcodes from the commandline rather than being locked into Google's Authenticator.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by notyourday »

Ecstatify wrote: post #135
DeusExMachina wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I often see comments like this one that misunderstand value for how something is achieved. Value is decided by the market according to the utility of the service. I happily pay $22 per year for Pinboard to keep a few bookmarks with tags. That's also storing "tiny text files" but I could not care less. I could even implement something similar myself. And yet, I find the value it provides worth paying. Another, more ex…

I didn't misunderstand "value for how something was achieved" I said it was expensive. https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/16/22178026/microsoft-authe... Microsoft have launched a beta password manager ------------------------------- Lastpass (€3 per month) - Password Manager - 1GB of encrypted file storage ------------------------------- Office 365 (€6 per month) - Beta Password Manager - Office Suite - 1 TB Storage

A year from now:

"I do not understand why the only companies that exist are Google, Apple and Microsoft? Where is the competition?"

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