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Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by ragebol »

xxpor wrote: post #96
pizza234 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've performed the switch as well, however, a couple of things to consider about Bitwarden: - field detection is much poorer in Bitwarden (ie. it will fill both signup and login fields in some websites... including HN) - Bitwarden timeout doesn't survive browser restarts (at least, this was the last time I've tried it), making it difficult to use for people with a complex password and frequent browser closing/opening

I'd always assumed point 2 was intentional

It is. Go to Settings > Vault Timeout. I've set it to 'On Browser restart' but you can set it to Never

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by nickthegreek »

vvillena wrote: post #124
nickthegreek wrote: post #7

Oof, this is a rough one! Id rather have a device number limit than a device type limit. Main Takeaway: "We’re making changes to how Free users access LastPass across device types. LastPass offers access across two device types – computers (including all browsers running on desktops and laptops) or mobile devices (including mobile phones, smart watches, and tablets). Starting March 16th, 2021, LastPass Free will only…

"I'd rather have" == "this is what I need to stay within the limits of the free tier" Lastpass reasons for doing this are perfectly clear. They want people to use and trust their platform, and there's no better way for doing that than allowing users to use the full version of their product. At the same time, they want revenue, and targeting the people that use Lastpass as an integral part of their workflow (e.g. myse…

I was previously a paying member but when they doubled their price, I realized the free tier worked for me and I move to it. Id gladly pay $15 a year for the service and not hassle with moving. But I might as well try out bitwarden for $10 now.

It would also be easier for me to recommend to less technical users like my family if I knew they could sync 1 mobile device and 1 computer. Its already hard enough to get any of them to use password managers to begin with.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by throw982739182 »

Well, time to switch it is. I can't justify more than a couple of dollars a year for a password manager. Also artificial limits, especially when companies limit existing features like this piss me off (cough google photos cough). Why not add new features and make them premium only?

Plus I recently changed my Lastpass password and they had added symbol/number requirements since the last time I had changed the password and it would not let me use just a word based password. Bitwarden let me without issues.

Checking out the extension now, it's also much easier to use than Lastpass. For me I don't care, but for my parents the Lastpass chrome extension interface is really confusing.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by kemonocode »

I migrated from LastPass to KeePass + Syncthing when they got bought out by LogMeIn. Sounds complicated but only the initial setup is a little awkward, then it's smooth sailing from that point on, and no centralized server to ever worry about or your platform of choice going rogue. Keeping your devices secure is still on you, but that's true of any password manager.

It was absolutely the best choice to make and I encourage anyone to do so and never have to worry about your service going down or suddenly asking a "nominal" fee to the keys of your kingdom. Of course, should the need ever arise, it's not that hard to migrate to something like Bitwarden.

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by Ecstatify »

DeusExMachina wrote: post #86
Ecstatify wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s ridiculously expensive. I get Office 365 with 1TB of storage for €6 per month. Office is just as secure as lastpass. I bought Enpass(wouldn’t recommend as they moved to a subscription model) and store everything on OneDrive. Paying $3 per month to store tiny text files is crazy.

I often see comments like this one that misunderstand value for how something is achieved. Value is decided by the market according to the utility of the service. I happily pay $22 per year for Pinboard to keep a few bookmarks with tags. That's also storing "tiny text files" but I could not care less. I could even implement something similar myself. And yet, I find the value it provides worth paying. Another, more ex…

I didn't misunderstand "value for how something was achieved" I said it was expensive.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/16/22178026/microsoft-authe...

Microsoft have launched a beta password manager

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Lastpass (€3 per month)

- Password Manager

- 1GB of encrypted file storage

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Office 365 (€6 per month)

- Beta Password Manager

- Office Suite

- 1 TB Storage

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by tweetle_beetle »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #93
pizza234 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've performed the switch as well, however, a couple of things to consider about Bitwarden: - field detection is much poorer in Bitwarden (ie. it will fill both signup and login fields in some websites... including HN) - Bitwarden timeout doesn't survive browser restarts (at least, this was the last time I've tried it), making it difficult to use for people with a complex password and frequent browser closing/opening

Also bit wardens enterprise feature is very different than anyone else’s enterprise feature. It’s in my opinion a bad system. The issue revolves around that you always have a personal account, that has work access. Well.... for enterprise, I want to be able to help user reset their password, override there to MFA, revoke access to a share, audit what shares they have access to. I REALLY wanted to use Bitwarden compan…

The concept is that you have your personal vault, and then you can also be a member of multiple organisations, each with a vault.

If you want, you can choose to disable the "personal ownership" option, so that employees lose their personal vault and can only use the organisation's vault. You can also select the "single organisation" option to prevent an employee from joining a second organisation.

Once you have done that, you can audit all of the shared "collections" in an organisation and revoke access to specific "collections" for specific employees.

And if you want enterprise-y control, then you can manage employee credentials using LDAP, etc.

It is a bit confusing to be fair, but I think you can do the things you mention?

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by cl3misch »

cardamomo wrote: post #97
peach45 wrote: post #71

Good thing I use pass https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pass

I love pass but found that it was difficult to use the associated Android app and keep things in sync.

The UX of the pass iOS app [1] vs. the Android app [2] (especially the need for OpenKeychain on Android) is the main reason keeping me on iOS.

[1] https://github.com/mssun/passforios

[2] https://github.com/android-password-store/Android-Password-S...

Re: Changes to LastPass Free

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Post by Tomte »

bognition wrote: post #60
levosmetalo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LastPass is a commodity. There are many free or open-source alternatives that are as reliable and as secure as LastPass that provide similar functionality. It's hard to justify even the small price for a commodity service unless you provide the best possible solution, and sometimes even that is not enough. I switched from LastPass premium that costed 15$ per year a few years ago to Bitwarden because LastPass could re…

The functionality is a commodity but what about the UX? MP3 players were fairly common when the iPod came out but the iPod crushed all the competition? Why because the UX was simply better. Without a doubt the password manager with the best UX is 1Password. Last year ago I got my tech-averse partner to set it up on her phone, the entire process took about 10 minutes and then it was done. She's never asked for me help…

> Without a doubt the password manager with the best UX is 1Password.

I doubt that. Navigating the sync options and finding one that works with Android phone, iPad and Windows PC was impossible.

Throw in two vault formats (with implications for which sync option can work), and it's a mess.

That was the paid standalone version, not the subscription model (that was when I finally jumped ship).

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