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Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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Interesting, looking into it. Can you share which browser you are using?

chromium https://i.imgur.com/faRoJiK.png

Thanks a lot, it's the optional chaining operator. We'll have to avoid it or change the ES build target.

Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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Could you build this on top of Agora ? That would make it much nicer from an open-source perspective. It's one of the only services that can carry the backend audio scalably. The product side is far more interesting...than the carrier api. Not worth spending time over that. Other alternatives are Twilio, Daily.co, etc

And then you would be risking leaking your data to CCP. Not worth the risk. It will be bad PR for Clubhouse too once the media gets the smell of it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-11/clubhouse...

Don't think anybody cares

Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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Hi everyone, a few days ago @DoubleMalt, @mitschabaude and me did a one-day hackathon to see if we can get a minimal WebRTC based version of a Clubhouse-style "room" to work. Since then we added a TURN server, bug fixes ("can you hear me?") and a bit of ui polishing. It is still early (please don't be too harsh) but you should find Jam to be quite usable as it is right now. Jam runs in any modern browser, at least th…

I like the Ux, very simple and responsive. It would be great if users on the stage could share a file with everyone else.

Oh yeah, and sometimes it’s nice to be able to post text messages too, but I mean, ideally you could upload images and post gifs and have video as well.

...of course, we’re now describing a different product.

This is deliberately minimal so you cant do those things because they’re undesirable for this product.

Sure, those are useful things too... but surely not every thing needs to have every feature.

Have you used teams recently? Did you know it’s soon gonna have a “data” tab so you can live explore your data from PowerBI without every leaving teams?

Featuuuuuure creep is what turns nice things into visual studio: bloated monoliths that tick every possible feature box but slow down both at runtime and in terms of features over time.

Having a sharp, refined product problem with a limited feature set is really nice.

...but it’s open source of you wanna mod it yourself...

Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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This is great! I've used Clubhouse over the past couple of weeks, and have been looking forward to seeing the opensource/self-hosted version.

Imho tho, one super important thing that Jam needs is federation. The best thing about Clubhouse is the discoverability of other people public rooms and being able to dip in and out of random conversations. The combination of self-hosting, open-source, and federation would be a great alternative.

Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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Fantastic, so great to see how quickly you were able to get this up and also it's a blessing for those of not allowed in to the iProduct citadel. Also awesome to see Berlin & Vienna represented.

Re: growth - the crypto community has been jumping into Clubhouse but I think pushing this as the local + opensource alternative could help Jam see very quick adoption.

Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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This is great! I've used Clubhouse over the past couple of weeks, and have been looking forward to seeing the opensource/self-hosted version. Imho tho, one super important thing that Jam needs is federation. The best thing about Clubhouse is the discoverability of other people public rooms and being able to dip in and out of random conversations. The combination of self-hosting, open-source, and federation would be a…

Thanks! We are definitely looking into ways how to help with discovery (for Clubhouse atm social media also tend to work better than the hallway) including federation.

Thank you for bringing up federation.

Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

#48
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then you would be risking leaking your data to CCP. Not worth the risk. It will be bad PR for Clubhouse too once the media gets the smell of it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-11/clubhouse... Don't think anybody cares

It's kinda sad that nobody cares, especially because we are dealing with a genocidal regime. It's going to bite us all back in the near future.

And to be honest their documentation is very poor.

Re: Show HN: Jam, an Open Source Clubhouse (w/ WebRTC)

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Hi everyone, a few days ago @DoubleMalt, @mitschabaude and me did a one-day hackathon to see if we can get a minimal WebRTC based version of a Clubhouse-style "room" to work. Since then we added a TURN server, bug fixes ("can you hear me?") and a bit of ui polishing. It is still early (please don't be too harsh) but you should find Jam to be quite usable as it is right now. Jam runs in any modern browser, at least th…

I like the Ux, very simple and responsive. It would be great if users on the stage could share a file with everyone else.

This could easily run on top of matrix, which would provide all that out of the box.
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