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Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by valuearb »

totalZero wrote: post #168
Kranar wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article you linked argues why it wouldn't be possible to move to another country. In fact the article argues heavily that labor costs are not the biggest advantage that China has.

The article argues why it would be more expensive in the short term. The argument I've seen for bringing production closer to home is that it's going to be painful either way so we ought to rip the bandaid off, because every year that we continue the status quo represents more money and market power amassed by other nations on the back of American demand. There's more to corporate or economic strategy than today's co…

That’s silly, we get as much benefit from free trade as every other country. Let China or India do assembly at wages that would be below minimum wage here, and take those savings to get a bigger piece of the market, sell more iPhones, do more software and hardware design and create more developer jobs.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by spoonjim »

throwaway4485we wrote: post #199
spoonjim wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only use Apple chargers in my house, even for non Apple devices. I’m not saying Apple is the only quality charger, but I have no real methodology to assess the quality of any other brand.

>I have no real methodology to assess the quality of any other brand But then how did you assess the quality of Apple's chargers? Can the same methodology not be applied then to other brands as well?

Their size and demonstrated product quality in other areas, plus this guy’s tear down: http://www.righto.com/2012/05/apple-iphone-charger-teardown-...

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by 1123581321 »

ambicapter wrote: post #104

I, for one, hate the expanded product lineup. I'm looking to buy an iPad and I have no idea which one is best suited for my case. Air? Pro? Mini?

Any of them are going to be better for you than when there was only one option. Just get the cheap one to start.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by nbzso »

From product innovation and design focused company into shareholders and politics first driven company. Closing the product ecosystem further, ignoring pro user needs, giving priority for dark pattern designs - dongle nightmare, giving access to user data to governments, censoring and creating barriers for OSS. I fully expect Apple to be the front-line operator in the new world envisioned by The Dirty Bunch Planners in Davos. And yes, Apple apologists like their toys and will love to be controlled in the name of ........insert politically correct, billionaire driven, tech-fetishist, pseudo-leftist, lgbt, blm, “woke”...agenda. And I don’t give a flying F. We, humanity as a whole, deserve what we get, and the psychopaths are here only because we are weak, lazy, naive and stupid.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by valuearb »

cageface wrote: post #177
jariel wrote: post #174

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'Design and Software' ??? Brand, marketing, product strategy, product marketing, industrial design, ui design, millions of lines of code which is all part of design, massive retail distribution chains both direct and indirect, massive loyal userbase, millions of developers, massive supply chain - and the ope rationalizing of all of that. China is not competing very well in many of those things. China's advantages are…

Chinese smartphones are selling extremely well and are currently the top ranked camera phones. The reputation of other Chinese brands is getting better too. Here in Asia I see Chinese branded stuff everywhere. https://www.dxomark.com/rankings/ I remember back in the day "Made in Taiwan" or "Made in Japan" was considered a joke and mark of cheap products. That changed fast and to assume the same thing won't happen aga…

Chinese phones sell well because they are cheap. Apple has never had but a fraction of the market but has always made most of the revenues and profits because they dominate high end phones.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by MaanuAir »

baybal2 wrote: post #79

I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

Softwares suffers from a similar pattern. Think security issues.

Indeed, any kind of specialized skills suffer from the same problem, when you want to cut costs.

You can only get what you paid for.

(and I’m not saying paying for is a sufficient guarantee either...).

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by smcl »

nbzso wrote: post #204

From product innovation and design focused company into shareholders and politics first driven company. Closing the product ecosystem further, ignoring pro user needs, giving priority for dark pattern designs - dongle nightmare, giving access to user data to governments, censoring and creating barriers for OSS. I fully expect Apple to be the front-line operator in the new world envisioned by The Dirty Bunch Planners…

The first half of your comment contained pretty legit complaints about Apples anti-consumer choices and genera direction. You completely lost me in the second where you just lost your temper and griped about things that bothered you personally about the world like BLM movement and (something about?) LGBT.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by ManuelKiessling »

nbzso wrote: post #204

From product innovation and design focused company into shareholders and politics first driven company. Closing the product ecosystem further, ignoring pro user needs, giving priority for dark pattern designs - dongle nightmare, giving access to user data to governments, censoring and creating barriers for OSS. I fully expect Apple to be the front-line operator in the new world envisioned by The Dirty Bunch Planners…

Well that went south fast.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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Post by cycrutchfield »

nbzso wrote: post #204

From product innovation and design focused company into shareholders and politics first driven company. Closing the product ecosystem further, ignoring pro user needs, giving priority for dark pattern designs - dongle nightmare, giving access to user data to governments, censoring and creating barriers for OSS. I fully expect Apple to be the front-line operator in the new world envisioned by The Dirty Bunch Planners…

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