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Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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When I heard “iPhone mini” rumours last year I was like “Finally! I can get a much more powerful 4S!” Unfortunately that’s not what happened.

I'm using one now. This "mini" is huge.

The new SE is bigger than the 12 mini, I just switched from a 2016 SE to a 12 mini and have been happy.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

I recalled that when in 2015, working for another sourcing shop working for likes of BestBuy/Futureshop/Target/London Drugs I was asked to tear down few chargers for them.

I found that diodes in parallel are surprisingly common around the industry.

This is such a thing which you are pretty much told on day 1 of any electronics course that it is impossible to not to know.

My only thinkable conclusion was that people keep doing it on purpose.

Other extreme cost cutting measures I saw were things like LEDs being used in double role as a diode. Wire wound around PCB used as inductor. Plug pegs being directly soldered to the PCB. Near paper thin plastic with holes from molding defects. Through hole components being soldered to each other. Flybacks without feedback. A 555 coaxed into use in a charger circuit.

You cannot come with any of that unknowingly, nor will you find any of that crap on the open market easily even in China.

It's pretty much an engineering equivalent of a "controlled flight into terrain," a direct result of suppliers being consciously directed into "stripping to the last cent" of the products by such unwitting buyers.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

> [If you don't know yourself] if you are asking a for something stupid, who will know? No one will.

Makes me think I could intentionally ask for 1 or 2 stupid things, and see if the supplier tells me about it?

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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"The 2014 iPhone 6 was “the poster child” of this transformation, according to a person involved in the product’s development. While the device had complex internal components and a larger screen, it dropped the diamond-polished edges and the precisely cut glass parts of the back of the iPhone 5 and 5s, which had been difficult to produce." well, that explains why the iPhone went from such a unique design to generic…

It wasn't just the design, Pre iPhone 6 was the era when Steve Jobs insisted on JIT supply chain management. And no manufacture could cope with the iPhone volume. Even when Apple have fully prepared for iPhone 6 launch, which was the first iPhone to have a phablet size display as it was called at the time. Production still couldn't keep up due to demand from China. iPhone 6 still remains the best selling iPhone in un…

Pretty sure it’s the supply crunch that made the older phones more “interesting”. New easily obtainable stuff is boring and common, no fomo.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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It's so retarded. I have 2 magic mice. One is always charging so I can swap them out

Why would you buy two of the same terribly designed item instead of getting, I don't know, an MX Master (3)?

The MX Master 3 is a wonderful piece of hardware but I personally couldn’t get used to it. I find the Magic Trackpad, though obscenely expensive, seems to fit my needs much better. I used the MX 3 for about a year. I do love some features it has.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

This stuff is why USB-C PD scares me.

You've got these manufactures that are struggling to make basic AC->DC inverters and now you want to throw on a negotiation step? Yeah, not going to end well for these cost cutting idiots.

There are going to be destroyed devices and fires because some idiot decides "Just hard wire 20v and be done with it!"

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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For what it's worth, I don't think Steve Jobs would have ever allowed the charging port for the Magic Mouse to ever be on the bottom and forced the user to have to leave the mouse on it's side to charge.

It shipped in 2009.

The 1st generation Magic Mouse took AA batteries, the 2nd gen had the charging port.

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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For what it's worth, I don't think Steve Jobs would have ever allowed the charging port for the Magic Mouse to ever be on the bottom and forced the user to have to leave the mouse on it's side to charge.

Maybe you don't know Steve Jobs but it is exactly the thing he would do without even a shred of doubt.

He's using the design to make you use it wirelessly (the way he wants). You're not supposed to use it like a normal mouse. The fact people moan about this would even make him more sure about it..

Also it came out back when and he probably saw it and approved it

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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This comment has a negative tone, but this doesn't seem to me to be a tragedy. Acquiring talent and putting them on the bench to stave off would-be competitors stifles innovation (re: Palihapitiya's criticism of Google). Acquiring talent and putting them to use on projects that achieve more scale and impact, sooner, than could happen at a small company -- that seems like innovation and the free market market at its b…

> Acquiring talent and putting them to use on projects that achieve more scale and impact, sooner, than could happen at a small company -- that seems like innovation and the free market market at its best. So, you're a fan of a free market, where free is defined as whatever direction Apple wants to go. Got it. Free for Apple to do as they please. I don't know if there's quite "consensus", but definitely one of the to…

And yet soviet computers were at best stolen western designs.

Where is AT&T defining the market today?

Where is General Motors in the world of operating systems today, despite being an early licensee of UNIX?

Re: How Tim Cook transformed Apple after Steve Jobs

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I worked in, and around OEM electronics since 2007. I've seen many guys like Tim Cook, most worse off ones. He squeezes suppliers, and know what he is doing. Others squeeze suppliers, and don't know what they are doing. On one of my first jobs, I've been witness to one such negotiations down to single cents, and microns of plastic for a few million units customized charger order. The order was such a whopper for a sm…

This stuff is why USB-C PD scares me. You've got these manufactures that are struggling to make basic AC->DC inverters and now you want to throw on a negotiation step? Yeah, not going to end well for these cost cutting idiots. There are going to be destroyed devices and fires because some idiot decides "Just hard wire 20v and be done with it!"

Some do exactly that, but worse, horror stories of capacitive droppers being sold as iphone "cube" chargers seem to be 100% true.
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