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How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #183

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You are spot on. People around here are at the brink of rioting. The limitations are becoming too much for everyone. You are absolutely correct that there might not be "next time" even if that means humanity's doom.

Get better leaders.

Well, I mean, we have been trying to do that ever since democracy was invented. At which point "get better leaders" becomes a discussion shutdown technique and not an answer given in good will?

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #235

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We are eleven months in. I voluntarily restricted myself for a long while. Far, far longer than I should have, to the point that I may have given myself brain damage. Now I am visiting my family because I'm not willing to do it indefinitely. The UK government is waffling on about restrictions until 2022 despite the fact we'll have vaccinated most of the vulnerable in a month or two. Everyone has their breaking point,…

Maybe news from other countries may be more informative than your current sources. Current projection in my country is that by summer every adult may've been vaccinated. The vaccine lessens severity of the disease, even if it doesn't block it entirely. So we might be on track to open up sooner than expected, which initially could be 2-3 years trajectory following fast-track of normal vaccine development.

The issue is lockdown and how the UK government chooses to proceed, not coronavirus spread or science.

I'm opening up from March 23, they can do whatever they want.

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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Same can be said about any illness you go through life though. The SARS virus isn't special in this instance. It got exorbitant amounts of attention and I can bet my life that there are much worse things out there to look out for.

How many illnesses are as novel and contagious as COVID appeared to be during its ascent? Careless reasoning risks under reacting just as much as over reacting.

Agreed -- both extremes are harmful. My point was that this particular disease has been blown way out of proportion.

I've read a study in my home country about children suffering from bronchopneumonia (I was one of them) at early age and how does that affect their adult life -- and how much does it reduce their life expectancy (especially in terms of increasing the chance of pulmonary diseases in elder years).

I mean, all diseases are awful -- especially those that leave lasting negative effects.

The whole thing seemed to turn into a campaign to gain political capital at one point. Enforcement was loose, rules changed many times (the WHO organization didn't help matters there), and data gathering was unreliable for months.

What are we to do? Just bow our heads and pretend that the people in power are oracles? I am willing to obey well-informed decisions but at least where I live clear facts were extremely hard to get throughout at least half the 2020.

I don't necessarily disagree with you -- making this clear here. It's just that the pandemic was handled in a rather totalitarian manner and results have been... questionable.

:(

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #235

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We are eleven months in. I voluntarily restricted myself for a long while. Far, far longer than I should have, to the point that I may have given myself brain damage. Now I am visiting my family because I'm not willing to do it indefinitely. The UK government is waffling on about restrictions until 2022 despite the fact we'll have vaccinated most of the vulnerable in a month or two. Everyone has their breaking point,…

Maybe news from other countries may be more informative than your current sources. Current projection in my country is that by summer every adult may've been vaccinated. The vaccine lessens severity of the disease, even if it doesn't block it entirely. So we might be on track to open up sooner than expected, which initially could be 2-3 years trajectory following fast-track of normal vaccine development.

That's a long two weeks.

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #148

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This is all a story. How do you know when you should and should not leave? Everything happens on time. You always leave at the perfect time. You can create a false narrative in your mind and say “I should’ve left two weeks or two years ago;” Or, you can be thankful for the way things are and have the attitude that everything always happens the way it is supposed to.

At least in the context of my life experience I will disagree somewhat. I have this way of intuiting when I have made the most out of a situation or an interaction (especially when it comes to paid work) and time and again, without fail, I have noticed that due to emotional immaturity I have stayed well after the point at which I stopped learning and thriving and started getting poisoned by various bad (new) conditio…

Sure, but just because you went through periods of getting “poisoned“, why does that mean you stayed too long? Everyone goes through trials and tribulations. You’re making an error by assuming that leaving before the poisoning means you left on time. You always leave on time. The poisoning is part of the bigger plan of life. There’s never a need for regret, for everything happens exactly the way it’s supposed to.

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #245

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At least in the context of my life experience I will disagree somewhat. I have this way of intuiting when I have made the most out of a situation or an interaction (especially when it comes to paid work) and time and again, without fail, I have noticed that due to emotional immaturity I have stayed well after the point at which I stopped learning and thriving and started getting poisoned by various bad (new) conditio…

Sure, but just because you went through periods of getting “poisoned“, why does that mean you stayed too long? Everyone goes through trials and tribulations. You’re making an error by assuming that leaving before the poisoning means you left on time. You always leave on time. The poisoning is part of the bigger plan of life. There’s never a need for regret, for everything happens exactly the way it’s supposed to.

I wish I could believe that but still... in retrospect, it seems you are correct.

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #65

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The transition from slave ownership to slavery as a service is truly one of the most disruptive innovations of the last 200 years.

Working for income is not slavery. You can always go join open source ecology and build your own civilization from scratch. Forced work in a prison could be considered slavery depending on the reason for the arrest and the financial motives of the owner of the prison.

> Working for income is not slavery. You can always go join open source ecology and build your own civilization from scratch.

No, you can't, because you need to eat tonight, not tomorrow or the week after or next quarter. And you need to pay bills, your house, etc. So the labour market is not in effect free.

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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COVID is not just about deaths, it also has a risk of lung/heart damage. Also, even if people don’t die or gain lung/heart damage they can still take up hospital capacity until there’s not enough capacity for the people who can survive with hospital care but won’t without. Anyway, my point is that the UK choose their current situation by being afraid to act back when small steps could have made a huge difference.

Oh right and Covid toes? No no it doesn't. What is the percentage of people who have that type of reaction? Have you even looked at that? It's miniscule. It's argued not to be from Covid directly but by comorbidities and would happen with any illness. The news media blew it up out of proportion to scare you and millions of other people like you who have a poor grasp ofstatistics and risk... for money and it worked! W…

Honestly, the only people who seem to be in clown world now are the people living in states that did not take it seriously early.

Your leaders not taking it seriously to begin with is the reason you are in this situation now.

Where I am we took this seriously early last year, and as a result have been able to live life mostly like normal since.

Anyway, you live in a democracy, so maybe convince as many people as possible to vote someone else in at the next opportunity. And if you think they are all stupid then run yourself.

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #238

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Their marketing outright lying about the progress and leadership not caring made it "necessary" to catch up.

Why, what would have happened if they hadn't? Say they promised it for some time, and then don't deliver on time. Then what?

Then presumably some people would have been disappointed.

So instead they decided to crunch and deliver a buggy game with the result that other people were so disappointed that they didn’t buy it.

I don’t know which is the bigger group, but I wish they would have delayed it.

Re: How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive

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post #245

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Sure, but just because you went through periods of getting “poisoned“, why does that mean you stayed too long? Everyone goes through trials and tribulations. You’re making an error by assuming that leaving before the poisoning means you left on time. You always leave on time. The poisoning is part of the bigger plan of life. There’s never a need for regret, for everything happens exactly the way it’s supposed to.

I wish I could believe that but still... in retrospect, it seems you are correct.

I don’t claim to have all the right answers, but I am a psychologist, and I have spent many years learning how to not think. All of the errors, mistakes, and failures in my life can be viewed as lessons I was always supposed to go through. A perfectly positive attitude charms our brains into properly regulating our internal physiology. Anxiety and the other negative internal states (mania, depression) typically can be cured by changing our internal dialogue and our perspective. One thing is for certain: you and I didn’t make this world. We didn’t invent people, trees, viruses, or love. We are part of a bigger picture. I compare it to being an actor in a movie. Why critique the scene? Why look back at previous scenes and wish they were different? Why hope for better scenes in the future? The script is perfectly written. Just read your lines. Play your part right now in the current scene with all of its ups and downs.

Prioritize your health. Go your pace and accept the consequences. Always feel satisfied with your choice.

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