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Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Re: Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Post by dhimes »

cygwin98 wrote: post #78
impendia wrote: post #17

"Republican Gov. Bill Haslam [who signed the bill] told reporters earlier this week that he wasn't familiar with the details of the legislation, but..." I feel like this says it all.

You know what, every time I hear such an excuse, I can't help thinking: well, why not a github for those laws. At least, we can "diff" them and follow up with who actually submitted the "patch". At least in that way we have certain accountability there.

This is such an excellent idea for citizenship that it would probably be made illegal because of its potential to embarass the lawmakers (or otherwise hold them directly and irrefutably accountable for their actions). If only there was a way... wikilawleaks ... hmmmm...

Re: Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Post by sfk »

kalleboo wrote: post #41
sfk wrote: post #39

In other news ( http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en008.html ): "Use of a JAPAN RAIL PASS is strictly limited to the signer (hereafter "you") only." Surely an outrageous clause like this one can only be the product of big corporations and corrupt politicians. What about "the right to travel"?

That's completely reasonable. As is Netflix putting "only one household" in their ToS. It'd be unreasonable if there was a specific law on the books in Japan that says if you loan out your rail pass you're branded a criminal (which in the case of Japan means you're deported for life) and get jail time, instead of them just taking it away from you and saying "you broke the terms, no more rail pass for you".

I don't think that you necessarily will get jail time. The new law elevates theft of entertainment services to the same level as theft of other services. In practice, I think theft of services is mostly punished by a fine.

But in theory, according to the old law you actually could go to jail for loaning out your rail pass in Tennessee. So actually all the people who are upset about this law should first focus on the existing law.

Re: Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Post by jnhnum1 »

sfk wrote: post #39

In other news ( http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en008.html ): "Use of a JAPAN RAIL PASS is strictly limited to the signer (hereafter "you") only." Surely an outrageous clause like this one can only be the product of big corporations and corrupt politicians. What about "the right to travel"?

guys, I think he was being sarcastic

Re: Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Post by billswift »

anamax wrote: post #37
impendia wrote: post #17

"Republican Gov. Bill Haslam [who signed the bill] told reporters earlier this week that he wasn't familiar with the details of the legislation, but..." I feel like this says it all.

What fraction of legislation do you think that the "best" governor understands?

Any and all that he signs, or he shouldn't be signing it into law.

Re: Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Post by Retric »

cruise02 wrote: post #70
iforgot wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Theft results in a perment loss. Tresspassing is probably much more apt. But, from the perspective of the online services there is a simple real world analogy that actually happens. Having 10+ people live in the same rented appartment. The lanlord is being paid, but his costs are larger than a single renter due to an increased useage of the property. Still, netflix is probably not the proponents of this law it's all…

I don't want to split hairs, but if I steal cable for a month, the cable company permanently loses the money I should have paid for a month of cable. Just because they don't lose the 1s and 0s they're selling doesn't mean there's no permanent loss. My apartment has a rental agreement about how many people are allowed to live there. If I break the agreement by allowing ten friends to live there I lose my apartment. If…

There is a big difference between cable an netflix. With cable you could tap a wire and they could not notice your use sage without significant effort. With netflix they can drop any account that uses more IP's or bandwidth than they want. Basically every time they serve up content they get to decide is this a valid use of the service, and with a little IP tracking there is little to stop this.

PS: It's easy enough to say in the TOS, any account that has more than N IP's downloading movies at the same time get's blocked and it's password reset.

Re: Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Post by anamax »

billswift wrote: post #85
anamax wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What fraction of legislation do you think that the "best" governor understands?

Any and all that he signs, or he shouldn't be signing it into law.

>>What fraction of legislation do you think that the "best" governor understands?

> Any and all that he signs, or he shouldn't be signing it into law.

I think that you're answering a different question, namely what should a governor do. I asked about what real governors actually do, suggesting that the governor in question is typical and that none are significantly better.

Do you have any examples of governors who behave as you (and I) think that they should? If not....

Re: Tennessee Makes it Illegal To Share Your Netflix Password

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Post by chopsueyar »

zacharypinter wrote: post #65
chopsueyar wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So up to a year in jail is not unreasonable?

Hah! While trying not to pick a fight with the comment I was replying to, I ended up picking another fight. Guess I can't win :)

Perhaps you are wrong?
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