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Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by lotusleaf1987 »

rbanffy wrote: post #15
lotusleaf1987 wrote: post #5

This is a purely defensive act to keep some company from producing a device that blocks Apple devices, but they can still make one for WebOS/Blackberry/Android/WP7.They're doing it to prevent someone else from producing/selling a similar device.

If that's the case, they should donate the patent to either the EFF or the ACLU.

Why that's a total non-sequitur? If the patent is only specifically related to Apply products, then they should keep it to themselves.

There's no incentive for Apple to produce/sell this device.

Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by [deleted] »

rbanffy wrote: post #15
lotusleaf1987 wrote: post #5

This is a purely defensive act to keep some company from producing a device that blocks Apple devices, but they can still make one for WebOS/Blackberry/Android/WP7.They're doing it to prevent someone else from producing/selling a similar device.

If that's the case, they should donate the patent to either the EFF or the ACLU.

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Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by edw »

rbanffy wrote: post #15
lotusleaf1987 wrote: post #5

This is a purely defensive act to keep some company from producing a device that blocks Apple devices, but they can still make one for WebOS/Blackberry/Android/WP7.They're doing it to prevent someone else from producing/selling a similar device.

If that's the case, they should donate the patent to either the EFF or the ACLU.

No, I think they should license it to HTC and all the other Android handset manufacturers, giving them one more bullet point in their long list of features that the iPhone lacks.

There's a patent. That much is (apparently) fact. Everything else is speculation. Is it really worth getting worked up over things that haven't happened and may never happen?

Finally, if this were to come to pass, there's a very easy solution: a filter. You will see cases that cover the lens with an IR filter. Problem solved. Yawn.

Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by lotusleaf1987 »

edw wrote: post #23
rbanffy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the case, they should donate the patent to either the EFF or the ACLU.

No, I think they should license it to HTC and all the other Android handset manufacturers, giving them one more bullet point in their long list of features that the iPhone lacks. There's a patent. That much is (apparently) fact. Everything else is speculation. Is it really worth getting worked up over things that haven't happened and may never happen? Finally, if this were to come to pass, there's a very easy solutio…

| edw: No, I think they should license it to HTC and all the other Android handset manufacturers, given them one more feature bullet point in their long list of features that the iPhone lacks.

What are you talking about? To follow your absurd scenario, you think if Apple gave this bizarre patent away, but none of their others, that the EFF should then turn around and backstab the inventors and license it to their rivals? Yeah that's real classy and makes a whole lot of sense..

Why do so many people see the world in these binaries? Good/evil, black/white, red/blue.

Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by sudonim »

The patent was filed December 2, 2009 when the 3gs was the latest and greatest iPhone. I'd be surprised if you see this on an iPhone near you anytime soon. And if the powers that be try to use it to repress Apple users, there are tons of other devices out there. No need to get alarmed.

Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by rbanffy »

edw wrote: post #23
rbanffy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the case, they should donate the patent to either the EFF or the ACLU.

No, I think they should license it to HTC and all the other Android handset manufacturers, giving them one more bullet point in their long list of features that the iPhone lacks. There's a patent. That much is (apparently) fact. Everything else is speculation. Is it really worth getting worked up over things that haven't happened and may never happen? Finally, if this were to come to pass, there's a very easy solutio…

> Is it really worth getting worked up over things that haven't happened and may never happen?

A guy enters your office with a machine gun. He doesn't fire, but keeps holding it and looking around like he's looking for someone. What do you do? Ask him "how may I help you, sir?"

> there's a very easy solution: a filter. You will see cases that cover the lens with an IR filter.

This works until someone passes legislation prohibiting it.

Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by [deleted] »

rbanffy wrote: post #14
kjell wrote: post #3

This is really scary. I'm a total apple fanboi. But no way I'd buy a phone with this baked in. I don't like to think apple would bow this deeply to the recording industry. Maybe the government. Either way it turns my stomach. "At block 950, a record function can be disabled. For example, if the encoded data includes a disable command, the device can temporarily disable its record function for a period of time after r…

> But no way I'd buy a phone with this baked in. Don't worry. It'll come bundled in a firmware update.

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Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by sedev »

gte910h wrote: post #9

I can see police officers affixing this to their gear....

That was my very first thought, too - "wow, this is going to be a boon to criminals in uniform!"

Think of it the way Bruce Schneier would: what could a malicious person accomplish with this technology? There's no effective way to keep it out of their hands, so you need to know what happens when someone tries to use this technique for malicious ends. The security implications of this are just nasty, nasty, nasty.

Re: Apple patents system for iOS devices to prevent image and video capturing

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Post by rbanffy »

rbanffy wrote: post #26
edw wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I think they should license it to HTC and all the other Android handset manufacturers, giving them one more bullet point in their long list of features that the iPhone lacks. There's a patent. That much is (apparently) fact. Everything else is speculation. Is it really worth getting worked up over things that haven't happened and may never happen? Finally, if this were to come to pass, there's a very easy solutio…

> Is it really worth getting worked up over things that haven't happened and may never happen? A guy enters your office with a machine gun. He doesn't fire, but keeps holding it and looking around like he's looking for someone. What do you do? Ask him "how may I help you, sir?" > there's a very easy solution: a filter. You will see cases that cover the lens with an IR filter. This works until someone passes legislati…

Oh.. I get it... I was criticizing Apple...

It's even worse than when I criticize Microsoft between 9 and 18 PST...

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