how I imagine (straw) hyper-capitalists think:
"why is poverty bad? not because we have empathy for poor people, nah, just because poor people are not being optimally productive worker bees"
How Poverty Makes Workers Less Productive
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#12The US doesn’t care about productivity but more about maintaining some sort of class system. It took me a while to realize this. Also a surprising number of people in the US believe that poverty is a moral failure of some sort. I never actually understood this.
> Also a surprising number of people in the US believe that poverty is a moral failure of some sort.
Yep, there's a marriage in the US between business and religion that seems contradictory until you realize that these people believe the "invisible hand" of the market is God.
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#13how I imagine (straw) hyper-capitalists think: "why is poverty bad? not because we have empathy for poor people, nah, just because poor people are not being optimally productive worker bees"
Keep in mind capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.
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#14This is going to sound egotistical, but it's not intended that way, just the experience of your average prole. The times that I have been the most successful, most motivated, most driven, most productive, and most useful, in study, career, relationships, and life, have tracked exactly with periods in which I've gotten out what I've put in. When I started my career and a company took a chance on me - we absolutely kil…
Okay. And what does that have to do with the article under discussion?
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#15how I imagine (straw) hyper-capitalists think: "why is poverty bad? not because we have empathy for poor people, nah, just because poor people are not being optimally productive worker bees"
Keep in mind capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.
I've heard this claim before, but I've never seen it substantiated. Would you like to do so?
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#16how I imagine (straw) hyper-capitalists think: "why is poverty bad? not because we have empathy for poor people, nah, just because poor people are not being optimally productive worker bees"
Why do you spend time imagining how straw men think?
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#17This is going to sound egotistical, but it's not intended that way, just the experience of your average prole. The times that I have been the most successful, most motivated, most driven, most productive, and most useful, in study, career, relationships, and life, have tracked exactly with periods in which I've gotten out what I've put in. When I started my career and a company took a chance on me - we absolutely kil…
Okay. And what does that have to do with the article under discussion?
The entire article is about people who are treated as human beings being more effective at their jobs.
I'm saying that this applies at every level of the scale, in work, love, friendship, society, everything.
We are wasting mind-bendingly tremendous amounts of talent in our world simply because of tunnel-vision mindsets.
And it saddens me that as hard as I try, I can't change this. I've spent my career trying. The well has run dry, and now I'm one of them. :/
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#18Sure, and universal health care helps even more but it doesn't fill the pockets of the members of the medical associations the way private health care does. Regulatory capture in its rawest form.
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#19I agree with this on principle, but I just can't shake the feeling that this sort of conveniently "incidentally" leftist NPR story is slanted, and therefor untrustworthy. I've been gaslit by too much media for too long to trust anything I read from anything even slightly mainstream. Everything is politically compromised, with few exceptions (WHO, CDC, UN, the list goes on).
I also agree with this on principle, but like you, I can no longer trust most major media channels. I've seen too much blatant lying and agenda-pushing from them the past few years.
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#20The US doesn’t care about productivity but more about maintaining some sort of class system. It took me a while to realize this. Also a surprising number of people in the US believe that poverty is a moral failure of some sort. I never actually understood this.
> Also a surprising number of people in the US believe that poverty is a moral failure of some sort. Yep, there's a marriage in the US between business and religion that seems contradictory until you realize that these people believe the "invisible hand" of the market is God.
> that these people
Who? I’ve never met anyone who believes that.