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>> kummerspeck (German for grief bacon) > Raises more questions than it answers True. As a native speaker I know the word, but the sentence makes little sense to me. One could gain Kummerspeck (over weeks, months or years), but one could not be looking like Kummerspeck or sitting there like Kummerspeck. Unless in English the word has been loaned and the meaning shifted over time as it sometimes happens with loan word…
One could gain Kummerspeck (over weeks, months or years), but one could not be looking like Kummerspeck or sitting there like Kummerspeck. One could very well be in the emotional state for Kummerspeck in that state of their lives, which is what is implied here. Basically parent means: "[Corea] saw in me that I have wanderlust, and that I'm depressed and fat from it". That is, the parent feels like Corea identified an…
To me, kummerspeck is the feeling of being unable to distinguish between the tears running down your face or the grease on your chin. It’s a feeling of relishing in the grief of burying someone who would want you to eat a ton of bacon at their funeral to celebrate their life.
Emotions are rarely simple or easy to explain. It’s still worth the effort to try though.
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Well, I don't hear anything jazzy about it. I guess it's (piano) improvisation. Or "Keith Jarrett music".. a mix of classical/gospely/bluesy/folky etc influences. Don't know. If someone wanted to hear jazz, I wouldn't play them that. I think if Keith wasn't a jazz musician, noone would think of calling it jazz. I heard a couple of times about 15 years ago a classical guitarist playing a transcription of the Memories…
Interesting view, thanks for sharing it. You are likely more qualified to categorize music as you have proper musical training. To me, the fact, that the concert is entirely improvised already places a foot on the jazz camp, considering it's an important characteristic of the genre that is not strongly shared by other genres. The second argument can be tricky though, if I played you Technical Death Metal in the piano…
Köln Concert does seem a very different kind of thing to Facing You though, although the latter is mostly totally improvised also, I believe. I guess due to F You's much shorter tune lengths and absence of extended improvisations over 1 or 2 chords etc. Facing You will play for 10 seconds with what Köln spends 5 minutes with..
> it's an important characteristic of the genre is not strongly shared by other genres.
What is not strongly shared, improvisation, or being entirely improvised?[0]
I also listen to a lot of North Indian classical..which seems about the same percentage entirely improvised as the Köln Concert.
I'm no an expert, but I don't think totally improvised western music is at all common outside "free jazz". i.e. it usually sounds like atonal noise, not pleasingly harmonious. That is very difficult. Classical musicians used to do it, until the 19th C, apparently, but gave up.
> There is something more to being a genre than the notes that are played
Absolutely, I've made this point many times myself, and it's something that was driven home to me when I started writing music with computers. Use jazz instrumentation and the music sounds like jazz. Rock instrumentation and it sounds like rock. Orchestra and it sounds like classical etc.
[0] Just to be clear, the last track isn't "entirely improvised", it's an improvisation over the Jarrett tune Memories of Tomorrow, which he'd been playing since at least 1966. And
> Subtle laughter may be heard from the audience at the very beginning of "Part I", in response to Jarrett's quoting of the melody of the signal bell which announces the beginning of an opera or concert to patrons at the Köln Opera House, the notes of which are G D C G A.
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Interesting view, thanks for sharing it. You are likely more qualified to categorize music as you have proper musical training. To me, the fact, that the concert is entirely improvised already places a foot on the jazz camp, considering it's an important characteristic of the genre that is not strongly shared by other genres. The second argument can be tricky though, if I played you Technical Death Metal in the piano…
I'm not trained in categorization though, and don't often think about it! The subject reminds me of bins in records stores, and maybe that's all it comes down to. "Hmm which of these large bins does Köln Concert best fit into". Reminiscent of finding pi to 1 decimal place, not very useful. And Keith's solo improvisations seem particularly unique. Köln Concert does seem a very different kind of thing to Facing You tho…
Both available here: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/
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It's certainly not a common word in German. In fact, this is the first time I've ever seen it, and all google search results are either dictionary entries or English articles that can be attributed to the Anglosphere's obsession with German compound words. Source: native speaker, reasonably literate
It is definitely colloquial and not a word you’d use everyday, but it is in Duden: https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Kummerspeck
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I'm curious, if The Köln Concert is not jazz then what is it? I'm not a fan of discussing labels and semantics endlessly but I'm interested where would you place it, as I have a very hard time imagining it under any other major genre.
I'd call The Köln Concert "protracted edging".
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I'm not trained in categorization though, and don't often think about it! The subject reminds me of bins in records stores, and maybe that's all it comes down to. "Hmm which of these large bins does Köln Concert best fit into". Reminiscent of finding pi to 1 decimal place, not very useful. And Keith's solo improvisations seem particularly unique. Köln Concert does seem a very different kind of thing to Facing You tho…
I just learned that the Freiburg and Paris 1975 solo concerts, recorded days before and after Köln, respectively, feature pre-composed melodies a lot more. I wonder if that was because Köln was recorded by ECM? (Part II of Freiburg is a 30 minute expanded version of a melody from Survivors Suite , in Paris Part II starts with In Your Quiet Place and then keeps returning to the same Survivors Suite melody.) Both avail…
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Interesting view, thanks for sharing it. You are likely more qualified to categorize music as you have proper musical training. To me, the fact, that the concert is entirely improvised already places a foot on the jazz camp, considering it's an important characteristic of the genre that is not strongly shared by other genres. The second argument can be tricky though, if I played you Technical Death Metal in the piano…
I'm not trained in categorization though, and don't often think about it! The subject reminds me of bins in records stores, and maybe that's all it comes down to. "Hmm which of these large bins does Köln Concert best fit into". Reminiscent of finding pi to 1 decimal place, not very useful. And Keith's solo improvisations seem particularly unique. Köln Concert does seem a very different kind of thing to Facing You tho…
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I just learned that the Freiburg and Paris 1975 solo concerts, recorded days before and after Köln, respectively, feature pre-composed melodies a lot more. I wonder if that was because Köln was recorded by ECM? (Part II of Freiburg is a 30 minute expanded version of a melody from Survivors Suite , in Paris Part II starts with In Your Quiet Place and then keeps returning to the same Survivors Suite melody.) Both avail…
There is some backstory regarding the piano that Jarrett was given for the Köln Concert being broken [0]. That may have forced him to improvise a lot more as whatever pre-composed melodies he could use as a crutch may have not been workable with the piano he had. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_K%C3%B6ln_Concert
Hmm I doubt it. I'd expect that to exert force more in the other direction. Anyway, it's all speculation. There is a book called Keith Jarrett’s The Köln Concert which seems well-written.
p.s. I just keep mentioning Facing You because I think it's his best record! I've talked to quite a few musicians who feel the same.