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Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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post #179

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Wait what? I was singing HN’s moderators namely Dang. There’s no personal attack here. If it’s not clear I was saying bannable speech and such would not be tolerated here because of the good moderation.

I think this may have been an attempt at humor by ruined where the post they made employs similar phrasing that dang uses when he's informing a user about a violation of the HN guidelines.

I think you might be right.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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post #179

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Wait what? I was singing HN’s moderators namely Dang. There’s no personal attack here. If it’s not clear I was saying bannable speech and such would not be tolerated here because of the good moderation.

I think this may have been an attempt at humor by ruined where the post they made employs similar phrasing that dang uses when he's informing a user about a violation of the HN guidelines.

Well crap, it went over my head.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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post #35

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Google had the most complete archive of comp.lang.c (and the rest of Usenet). That archive is now inaccessible. Users posting to comp.lang.c through Google Groups were a problem -- especially with the recent bug that caused GG posts to comp.lang.c++ to have the "++" quietly dropped. If Google made its archive of all Usenet newsgroups available, I'd be fine with them dropping the posting interface. (And some users act…

> " ... complete archive of ... Usenet " sotto voce > Usenet postings were never meant to be permanent. I was there in its heyday and nobody expected their postings to live beyond the spool expiration lifetime.

> nobody expected their postings to live beyond the spool expiration lifetime.

I know that a number of posters in groups I used to frequent added the X-No-Archive: yes header to their posts in the early 2000s. The Google and Deja news archive before it did honor that header apparently.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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The same thing happened last July to comp.lang.forth and comp.lang.lisp. https://support.google.com/groups/thread/61391913

Lisp still might be popular if the Usenet group got banned back in the day. Lisp developers were famously incredibly rude for some reason and if you asked a question a guy named Erik Naggum would write essays screaming at you and tell you to kill yourself, then everyone else would call him "a character". I sort of think this is why people stopped using the language. Eventually they calmed down and now everyone seem t…

I still remember when he compared Scheme to The Bell Curve

"well, enough marketing for Scheme. once you try it, you'll understand. be warned that lots of people approach Scheme the same way they approach controversial books (The Bell Curve comes to mind): they don't read it, they don't know any of the things it actually says, but they have a hell of a lot of opinions about it."

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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post #136

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When pompeii was discovered we saw into homes 1,000 years ago. Without any regard to privancy for those covered in rock we broadcast their lives around the globe. I don't think we give a lot of weight to what the original publishing intent was for anything published 100, 200 years ago, why would the change in the future?

Hence the old joke, "At what point does graverobbing become archaeology?"

When you can publish it?

Without publishing it rather becomes tomb raiding even after thousands of years

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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And yet Eric Schmidt says (2010)* we should change our name... Because everything is always kept https://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/google-ceo-eric-schmid... * It's ironic I'm referring to a 10yr old piece to refer to the danger of continuous archives.

Not really, that information gradually gets bit-rot and evaporates away to nothingness as website after website gets old and vanishes. In the early days of the Internet, I often used to Google/AltaVista/Jeeves my own name. There used to be quite a few hits. Over the years, those old hits have just faded away.

That doesn't necessarily mean they disappeared, although chances are probably better that they did than didn't. Google has increasingly started incorporating recency in how it ranks search results, so if it's more than a few years old it'll fade away from Google results regardless if it's still around or not.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Hi Folks, I have archives of comp.lang.c group going back 35 years (1986-2021) and when I saw this news I decided to prioritize this one and just started synchronizing it into my archive. In a couple of hours, you should be able to see all of the posts ever made to: comp.lang.c group over at my Usenet Archives: Here it is, enjoy: https://usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=comp.lang.c&y=0&r=... BTW. I just reworked ent…

First of all, thank you for making this available. However without Search functionality the utility of this archive is very limited.

Hello, and thanks for your words, much appreciated. As far as search capabilities, it's a bit tricky to create a fast search, when you have over billion posts full of text to search through. But I am working on putting together a text search within a specific group, which seems to be working pretty fast. I should have it completed in a week or two.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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post #133

Hi Folks, I have archives of comp.lang.c group going back 35 years (1986-2021) and when I saw this news I decided to prioritize this one and just started synchronizing it into my archive. In a couple of hours, you should be able to see all of the posts ever made to: comp.lang.c group over at my Usenet Archives: Here it is, enjoy: https://usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=comp.lang.c&y=0&r=... BTW. I just reworked ent…

"I just reworked entire architecture of the site, which unfortunately also means I have to re-synchronize over 1 billion posts back into the archive." Thank you very much for creating and maintaining this archive. I am not sure how big of a commitment I am making when I say this but we (rsync.net) would like to give you free service, forever, to back up this resource. Please contact us if this would be useful.

Wow, I overlooked this post. But you have me interested. I would like to talk more about the details of your offer. Please send me your contact info.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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post #174
post #57

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Nah, using cloud VMs over Web browsers feels just the same as X Windows Terminals to DG/UX central server in 1994, just with a prettier interface.

I used both DG/UX and MV/UX. I was sad to see both DEC and DG go out of business.

We used it on our campus until the server died around 1996, replaced by a PC tower running Red-Hat Linux.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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post #21

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I guess I’m getting old but I’m always amazed when people don’t know what Usenet is. Or at least aren’t able to spot a Usenet group by name.

Where would you learn about it? I've never seen an invite or an indication that any form of contribution is welcomed, or even possible.

> Where would you learn about [usenet]?

In the late '90s up through 2010 or so, one's ISP would provide instructions for configuring one's mail and news clients to access their email and usenet. From there, the client would show a list of groups and you could choose which ones to subscribe to.

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