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US raises ‘deep concerns’ over WHO report on Covid’s Wuhan origins

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Re: US raises ‘deep concerns’ over WHO report on Covid’s Wuhan origins

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Start working on a vaccine.

It took two days to create a vaccine for COVID-19. How much more lead time do we need?

Ok, start clinical trial immediately after vaccine creation. At least until the point where it's safe for humans to use the new vaccine.

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Comments by experts who went on the WHO mission https://mobile.twitter.com/TheaKFischer/status/1360590441817...

Right now, I trust WHO slightly more than I trust CCP. Biden is right to re-engage them, but they have a lot of work to do to get its reputation back. They can probably start by capping payments from any one country as to minimize the effects of soft power. An under-funded WHO is better than a biased WHO.

Are you aware that the messed up situation with WHO funding is due to US policy?

“ Though the US paid $446.5m in 2019 compared with China’s $43m, the bulk of American funding was voluntary; the organization only receives 17% of its funding through “assessed” contributions, AKA country membership dues. The bulk of its budget is funded through voluntary donations, for which countries can earmark specific use, because President Ronald Reagan passed a “zero-growth policy” for WHO funding in the 1980s. With the assessed dues frozen at 1990s levels, the WHO has been forced to increasingly rely on donated funds.”

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/oct/19/john-oliver-...

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I'm no fan of the Trump administration or their handling of COVID, but they didn't throw doctors in jail or censor their research. Entirely different level of screwup.

ahem Rebekah Jones would like to have a word with you.

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I'm no fan of the Trump administration or their handling of COVID, but they didn't throw doctors in jail or censor their research. Entirely different level of screwup.

Like this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/seattle-...

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I'm no fan of the Trump administration or their handling of COVID, but they didn't throw doctors in jail or censor their research. Entirely different level of screwup.

We don't have the exact same things, but similar: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/24/birx-says-someone-was-giving... Dr. Deborah Birx, the Trump White House coronavirus response coordinator, said in a CBS interview released on Sunday that former President Donald Trump had been reviewing “parallel” data sets on the coronavirus pandemic from someone inside the administration. "Rebekah Jones, the data scientist who helped…

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Re: US raises ‘deep concerns’ over WHO report on Covid’s Wuhan origins

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It took two days to create a vaccine for COVID-19. How much more lead time do we need?

Ok, start clinical trial immediately after vaccine creation. At least until the point where it's safe for humans to use the new vaccine.

You can’t do a trial when there is no outbreak.

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It could be. But that I find extremely unlikely A failed experiment? Maybe a bit more likely, but still I don't think so Sars-Cov-2 looks like pretty much what it is: a zoonotic virus that "doesn't know what's going on" Hence why only the recent mutations made its transmission more efficient. Now, if it escaped unbeknownst from a research lab, that I would put on the plausible category. Would be more possible if it w…

How about this possibility: (1) You've got this lab that uses a lot of animals and does experiments. (2) There is a 'wet' market nearby that deals in animals from A to Z. (3) Maybe some animal from the lab carrying a zoonotic virus (origin unknown) somehow got disposed of for cash in the market? How could WHO or anyone uncover such an occurrence a year or more later? Would it be possible that such a thing had happene…

Yes there are several possibilities. And no, I don't think anybody could figure something like that out.

What you can do is follow chains of mutations and infections and try to get somewhere.

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First gen Chinese, grew up in NA. Have contact with relatives "on the ground". My own experience: Don't ever trust the Chinese government on issues that could potentially involve the reputation of the party. Note that I'm not saying don't trust what CCP says, ever (sometimes they actually do good things) - just not on issues that involve anything to do with how the world might perceive them. Which is exactly what thi…

That's typical baseless FUD, which is what this whole "lab virus scenario" has been from the start with the backing of US agencies.

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I don't know why whenever people bring up that the virus might have come from a lab it always gets dismissed because the virus doesn't look artificial. Why is it never brought up that it could just be an accident? It doesn't need to be a weapon. Just poor safety during research.

Why did everyone brush over the Italians finding it in blood samples from September 19, 2 months before the outbreak in Wuhan? Certain actors have a narrative they would like to push.

There is also mounting evidence that the virus was in France in November.

Now, it still most likely came from China but this adds to the reasonable suggestion that the Wuhan market was simply the first large outbreak but not near the origin of the virus.

My 2c is that the virus will be found (if we do find its origin) to come from a rural area in Southern China.

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