Probably some automated spam detector got it banned. Here's the ban message for posterity: https://i.imgur.com/0lFapQ1.png
"Back to safety". Gotta love corporate BS
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#62Oh, Google. You never quite figured out adulthood, and now senescence is setting in.
Great word. For those like me:
senescence (noun)
the condition or process of deterioration with age.
• loss of a cell's power of division and growth.Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Monopolistic platforms don't own the copyright on user-generated content. The users do, and they license it to the platform.
Thats true but the license users agree to usually says they grant the platform full rights. Users still retain their rights but you would have to contact every reddit user for their permission individually.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an interesting point: that a commitment to practical free speech for everyone, everywhere, will tend towards consolidation of platforms and natural monopolies. Cancellation, deplatforming, etc. might actually drive platform diversity and innovation which will, in turn, further freedom of expression far more effectively than public pressure to tolerate everything.
Careful , it will also drive to isolationism, echo-chambers and the quashing of controversial dissenting opinions. If you dont think right now we have opinions as controversial as "Gay people should be able to marry each other if they want" was 100 years ago,an opinion which right now we consider almost self-evident, I would urge you to think harder.
> it will also drive to isolationism,
This separation would be good. It would mean that LGBTI humans would be able to find their own communities without cispeople getting weirded out.
Right now everything about my gender is verboten because it is sexualized.
Overreliance on youtube means that medical information around gender issues has to be "coded" so as to not trigger banning.
Facebook outs people with their stupid names rules that puts real people in real danger.
If everyone was being deplatformed then there would be the platform diversity needed.
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Google had the most complete archive of comp.lang.c (and the rest of Usenet). That archive is now inaccessible. Users posting to comp.lang.c through Google Groups were a problem -- especially with the recent bug that caused GG posts to comp.lang.c++ to have the "++" quietly dropped. If Google made its archive of all Usenet newsgroups available, I'd be fine with them dropping the posting interface. (And some users act…
> " ... complete archive of ... Usenet " sotto voce > Usenet postings were never meant to be permanent. I was there in its heyday and nobody expected their postings to live beyond the spool expiration lifetime.
Yup. I've met a number of old farts like me who were not thrilled when what we assumed was transient had been archived. I'm not a big fan of the opt-out model of archiving where archivers just assume that they have implied consent to grab anything and everyone from everyone who hasn't explicitly said no.
Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned
#66Is there a standard way to get Usenet access these days?
NNTP is a standard. I use eternal-september.
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comp.lang.c is a Usenet forum, that Google Groups provides access to. You can access it from any NNTP server that provides the core of Usenet without using Groups, and it's better not to use Google's horrible interface anyways.
I guess I’m getting old but I’m always amazed when people don’t know what Usenet is. Or at least aren’t able to spot a Usenet group by name.
Where would you learn about it? I've never seen an invite or an indication that any form of contribution is welcomed, or even possible.
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That, and the fact that the bulk of Usenet traffic is encoded binaries of copyrighted media and porn of varying levels of legality. The amount of traffic in the "big 7" hierarchy (like comp.*) is tiny compared to that.
I never got how this works. All of those encrypted binaries can only be decrypted using keys posted to private invite-only forums/groups. What's the point in making that extra detour through "binary usenet providers" compared to just having a private tracker?
Primarily, bittorrent didn't exist until 2001.
Secondarily, you need to find a person to seed a private tracker, and bandwidth is limited to the seed host. You pay to share the content. With the binary server, it's the speed of the NNTP host. Users pay to download the content.
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This is hilarious because Google is probably the largest user of C++ and has the most people on the C++ standards committees .
This is about C, not C++. Though I haven’t been there in years, I chuckle to think what would have happened if you made this mistake on that news group.
Pretty sure OP is referring to this part of the comment they were replying to:
> Users posting to comp.lang.c through Google Groups were a problem -- especially with the recent bug that caused GG posts to comp.lang.c++ to have the "++" quietly dropped.
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Careful , it will also drive to isolationism, echo-chambers and the quashing of controversial dissenting opinions. If you dont think right now we have opinions as controversial as "Gay people should be able to marry each other if they want" was 100 years ago,an opinion which right now we consider almost self-evident, I would urge you to think harder.
> it will also drive to isolationism, This separation would be good. It would mean that LGBTI humans would be able to find their own communities without cispeople getting weirded out. Right now everything about my gender is verboten because it is sexualized. Overreliance on youtube means that medical information around gender issues has to be "coded" so as to not trigger banning. Facebook outs people with their stupi…
Remember when gay and lesbian bars were a thing; back when straight people steered clear of them because of the stigma?
Not having the stigma is good overall, but in many places there's no longer queer-exclusive spaces. That whole segment of culture is rapidly becoming a thing of the past.