Since the kids are all about sea shanties these days: https://archive.org/details/78_rio-grande_leonard-warren-tom...
Thank you! Has one of the best renditions of 'drunken sailor.'
78rpm Records Digitized
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ssshh!
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I think they're agreeing with you. There's no obvious reason this should be considered fair use.
Last time I checked, Archive.org also host ROMs of various copyrighted Nintendo games. Nintendo are famously litigious so I'm not sure how long that is likely to continue.
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#33I wish I had not sold my 78's to Half Price Books a few years back. I had a couple hundred records, some of which had probably never been played. I found all of them in a house we bought right after getting married. They were a mix of old Country music, Broadway musical shows, Jewish songs, and Big Band stuff. I always intended to digitize them before selling them but my phonograph only played 33 1/3 rpm and 45 rpm a…
> I wish I had not sold my 78's to Half Price Books a few years back. I had a couple hundred records, some of which had probably never been played. How much did you get for them? I assume HPB puts almost all 78s in the dumpster.
I knew going in that I wouldn't get much so I was not surprised to end up with a only few dollars which I spent on books for the kids. At the same time I also sold them a bunch of books so the records and books were co-mingled money. I know that HPB has always had a good selection of 78s on the shelves and that is why I took them. Hopefully they were able to send them to a store where someone could buy and enjoy them.
I also have a large collection of vinyl albums from the late 60's through the mid-80's that I tried to sell/give to a well-known local record shop in FtWorth. They wouldn't touch my albums or 45s and told me that most albums have no real value. This, in spite of the fact that their entire store was wall-to-wall used albums. They recently moved to a new building with a lot more floor space and their store has become a lot more like a HPB in that you can get memorabilia, posters, junk and crap along with your used albums. Pretty funny actually.
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#34I was thinking that this would've been really cool if they'd scanned the grooves with a laser to get the exact sound without the analog needle noise/imprecision. But I guess it's basically what I thought -- output from a record player in digital form. Which, I mean, is fine.
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#35Couldn't find Tchaikovsky's Pathetique with Ormandy conducting... the one with the interesting artwork
http://shellackophile.blogspot.com/2015/04/tchaikovsky-symph...
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The trouble with digitizing analog mediums (especially vinyl) is how much your equipment can alter the sound. Given a different tonearm, cartridge, amp, etc, the same record can sound very different. Would a scan done with a laser turntable[1] be better? The wikipedia article mentions that it produces a much better capture than regular tonearms, although they are much more susceptible to dust. [1] https://en.wikipe…
It's the equalization that had the kids thinking 78 was so obsolete & bad sounding compared to our 45's and the upcoming 33's back in the early 1960's. Naturally it was all the fault of the RIAA. By that time almost all new record players had the recent RIAA standard equalization built in, by compensation in the audio playback circuit based on the published RIAA engineering standard which had emerged. Otherwise the 4…
Wow! There's a book in here, waiting to be written.
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#37The trouble with digitizing analog mediums (especially vinyl) is how much your equipment can alter the sound. Given a different tonearm, cartridge, amp, etc, the same record can sound very different. I’ve had some luck digitizing some of my collection with a DP-450 [0] and Ortofon Blue [1], but had higher end stuff end up sounding less interesting to my ears. This is the trouble with audio in general: people not only…
> This is the trouble with audio in general: people not only prefer different sound profiles but also perceive sound differently, which makes it difficult to get rips (at least in my limited experience).
The problem with worrying about this is that even the same person perceives sound differently situationally and is simply not repeatable. In most cases when someone hears a difference it is often just a change in their perception from one moment to the next.. and that’s even when something measurable has changed! The bass sounds better because of that new amp.. well no.. you just happened to focus on it more the second time around. Longer term people’s physiology changes as well.
Only repeat, blinded A-B testing can clearly elicit an objective difference that is most likely not due to these perceptual inconsistencies.
What does this mean.. record it with decent equipment that captures as much useful raw information as possible (and yes 96khz is ridiculous as we’re not bats). People can EQ and mix to their preferences any given day.
It’s not clear there was something wrong with the cartridge. These are old 78 records.. they weren’t mastered with much to begin with and the useful fidelity in them is limited. If you want you can post-process them with whatever fancy shit, but I wouldn’t immediately assume the recordings weren’t the best given what they were working with for source material.
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#38The trouble with digitizing analog mediums (especially vinyl) is how much your equipment can alter the sound. Given a different tonearm, cartridge, amp, etc, the same record can sound very different. I’ve had some luck digitizing some of my collection with a DP-450 [0] and Ortofon Blue [1], but had higher end stuff end up sounding less interesting to my ears. This is the trouble with audio in general: people not only…
> The trouble with digitizing analog mediums (especially vinyl) is how much your equipment can alter the sound. Given a different tonearm, cartridge, amp, etc, the same record can sound very different. Would a scan done with a laser turntable[1] be better? The wikipedia article mentions that it produces a much better capture than regular tonearms, although they are much more susceptible to dust. [1] https://en.wikipe…
Old 78 records were produced with equipment from recording to cutting and pressing that is long since obsolete. Even if you overcome the challenges of dealing with laser equipment (dust, tracking).. what extra information are you really getting?. that it is useful signal more than even a dB or two above the noise I think is very wishful thinking.
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#39This story has made the top of Hackernews before, but it's always appreciated when people find it. For context about the Great 78 project: http://great78.archive.org/ For the even larger set of 78rpm recording being done: https://archive.org/details/78rpm
Some good 20s and 30s jazz can be found here, too
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The trouble with digitizing analog mediums (especially vinyl) is how much your equipment can alter the sound. Given a different tonearm, cartridge, amp, etc, the same record can sound very different. Would a scan done with a laser turntable[1] be better? The wikipedia article mentions that it produces a much better capture than regular tonearms, although they are much more susceptible to dust. [1] https://en.wikipe…
I was wondering the same thing! For the dust problem, I’d like to imagine that the machines could be modified with an air pump to blow away anything ahead of the pickup. One probably wouldn’t want that extra noise in a listening room, but for archiving, it wouldn’t matter. I guess when you can get a ‘good enough’ traditional turntable for a couple hundred bucks but an ELP laser turntable costs over $14,000[0] the eco…
It doesn't seem that hard to post process a laser scan of a record to remove dust and scratches with at least 95% success.
If you have two copies of the same record, even much better results should be possible.
This is such an obvious idea that I assume people have tried?