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Re: Chick Corea has died

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I had previously no idea who he was. Having listened to his music, I now understand how good he is/was and this was a gentle introduction to this genre. Are there good jazz piano/jazz albums to listen to that people might recommend? (By him or others)

Jazz pianist here. Among the greatest jazz pianist albums: Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage , Empyrean Isles , Herbie Hancock Trio (1981) McCoy Tyner - Supertrios , The Real McCoy Keith Jarrett - Facing You , Survivors Suite , Fort Yawuh , Expectations A lot of my favourite piano/keyboard playing is on Miles Davis albums: Red Garland on Steamin' . Relaxin' , Workin' , Cookin' , Round About Midnight , Milestones Herbie…

I'm curious, if The Köln Concert is not jazz then what is it? I'm not a fan of discussing labels and semantics endlessly but I'm interested where would you place it, as I have a very hard time imagining it under any other major genre.

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Jazz pianist here. Among the greatest jazz pianist albums: Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage , Empyrean Isles , Herbie Hancock Trio (1981) McCoy Tyner - Supertrios , The Real McCoy Keith Jarrett - Facing You , Survivors Suite , Fort Yawuh , Expectations A lot of my favourite piano/keyboard playing is on Miles Davis albums: Red Garland on Steamin' . Relaxin' , Workin' , Cookin' , Round About Midnight , Milestones Herbie…

I'm curious, if The Köln Concert is not jazz then what is it? I'm not a fan of discussing labels and semantics endlessly but I'm interested where would you place it, as I have a very hard time imagining it under any other major genre.

Well, I don't hear anything jazzy about it. I guess it's (piano) improvisation. Or "Keith Jarrett music".. a mix of classical/gospely/bluesy/folky etc influences. Don't know. If someone wanted to hear jazz, I wouldn't play them that. I think if Keith wasn't a jazz musician, noone would think of calling it jazz.

I heard a couple of times about 15 years ago a classical guitarist playing a transcription of the Memories of Tomorrow encore (the last track of Köln Concert) on the Australian classical-music-only radio station ABC Classic FM. They'd never play the original – that would be "jazz", I guess, and inappropriate. But a classical guitarist playing the same notes – classical.

Re: Chick Corea has died

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I am a huge fan of Chick Corea; he is my favorite jazz pianist. I was saddened to hear this news this afternoon. My very first jazz album outside of smooth jazz was “My Spanish Heart,” which was my introduction to jazz fusion. I then discovered Return to Forever and the Elektric Band, and I also learned about Chick Corea’s post-bop work. Chick Corea’s music has been a mainstay in my life for the past 15 years. I love…

I had previously no idea who he was. Having listened to his music, I now understand how good he is/was and this was a gentle introduction to this genre. Are there good jazz piano/jazz albums to listen to that people might recommend? (By him or others)

The entire Bill Evans.

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Corea's touring group was all sourced from Scientologists. It allowed him and the church to manipulate his staff. A colleague of mine helped on an overseas tour and accidentally incurred a $18,000 cell phone bill (international roaming charges out the wazoo.) They dumped her when she complained, and found another church member to fill in. An actual tour manager would have cost more money and would have had a contract…

What a pity that such a talent should have a shadow hanging over him.

Like most Scientology celebs, he was carefully taken care of by the church. I doubt he was ever aware of how shitty they treated his staff.

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Jazz pianist here. Among the greatest jazz pianist albums: Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage , Empyrean Isles , Herbie Hancock Trio (1981) McCoy Tyner - Supertrios , The Real McCoy Keith Jarrett - Facing You , Survivors Suite , Fort Yawuh , Expectations A lot of my favourite piano/keyboard playing is on Miles Davis albums: Red Garland on Steamin' . Relaxin' , Workin' , Cookin' , Round About Midnight , Milestones Herbie…

I'm curious, if The Köln Concert is not jazz then what is it? I'm not a fan of discussing labels and semantics endlessly but I'm interested where would you place it, as I have a very hard time imagining it under any other major genre.

I'd call The Köln Concert "protracted edging".

Re: Chick Corea has died

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I had previously no idea who he was. Having listened to his music, I now understand how good he is/was and this was a gentle introduction to this genre. Are there good jazz piano/jazz albums to listen to that people might recommend? (By him or others)

I haven't seen him mentioned in this thread, but I was introduced to the phenomenal drummer Dave Weckl through Chick Corea and his Elektric Band. In my mind, Dave is the best drummer alive today. The mix of technical and musical skills is super impressive. After Dave played with Chick and the Elektric Band he's done several albums and is all over the place sharing his gift with folks from around the world. Look him u…

Good stuff... but.... Yussef Dayes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVtIPeYIeQ

Add in Rocco Paladino on bass and Tom Misch on guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7GaK516Wkk

Or Rocco Paladino on bass and Charlie Stacey on keyboards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLWygV_OGc0&t=2414s

Re: Chick Corea has died

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I am a huge fan of Chick Corea; he is my favorite jazz pianist. I was saddened to hear this news this afternoon. My very first jazz album outside of smooth jazz was “My Spanish Heart,” which was my introduction to jazz fusion. I then discovered Return to Forever and the Elektric Band, and I also learned about Chick Corea’s post-bop work. Chick Corea’s music has been a mainstay in my life for the past 15 years. I love…

I had previously no idea who he was. Having listened to his music, I now understand how good he is/was and this was a gentle introduction to this genre. Are there good jazz piano/jazz albums to listen to that people might recommend? (By him or others)

I like the yesenadam list below, but this is some of what I am enjoying recently:

Bad Bad Not Good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTloZPT62IM

Kamaal Williams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmGe8n_8Za0

Yussef Dayes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLWygV_OGc0

The Comet is Coming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpfpYTmohAk

Vijay Iyer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGb1etHM3Sk&list=PL9coQz2INo...

Terrace Martin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqHAeaCHHkY

Maybe there will be something palatable in that for you... maybe not :)

Re: Chick Corea has died

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post #181

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I'm curious, if The Köln Concert is not jazz then what is it? I'm not a fan of discussing labels and semantics endlessly but I'm interested where would you place it, as I have a very hard time imagining it under any other major genre.

Well, I don't hear anything jazzy about it. I guess it's (piano) improvisation. Or "Keith Jarrett music".. a mix of classical/gospely/bluesy/folky etc influences. Don't know. If someone wanted to hear jazz, I wouldn't play them that. I think if Keith wasn't a jazz musician, noone would think of calling it jazz. I heard a couple of times about 15 years ago a classical guitarist playing a transcription of the Memories…

Interesting view, thanks for sharing it. You are likely more qualified to categorize music as you have proper musical training. To me, the fact, that the concert is entirely improvised already places a foot on the jazz camp, considering it's an important characteristic of the genre that is not strongly shared by other genres.

The second argument can be tricky though, if I played you Technical Death Metal in the piano you may think it's classical music too [0]. There is something more to being a genre than the notes that are played, I think...

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W05qbb0NeYk

Re: Chick Corea has died

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> Return to Forever, Crystal Silence, Romantic Warrior, My Spanish Heart, Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy. funny these would have been in my top too I'd add the blue note acoustic band session of the early 90s (colaiuta/patittuci)

What games shall we play today? ;) Flora Purim has such a beautiful voice.

where have i known you before :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O25Wm42m3qE

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