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Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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> There are many reasons why not doing X is right, including social/mental recovery and prevention of burnout. You suggested the question seems naive, but you’ve also listed plenty of good answers to “why aren’t you coding?” I’m not sure you can attribute naivety to a simple question like this, and I don’t think it’s necessary. It’s just a question. It’s prompted some interesting responses in this thread.

Interesting how judgment is assumed in this question. A question like “why aren’t you living in Istanbul” feels very neutral, whereas OP’s question can feel like a moral suggestion. Seems unfair to presuppose such things, though especially in a caustic way

Agreed.

And I’m fascinated by some of the responses to this question, including the post I was responding to. It’s really interesting.

I come with my own bias, I’d like to code more, and arguably need to, but don’t always manage the non-coding side of my work in the most optimal way.

Really interesting to read everyone’s thoughts.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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> Because Coding is not Working Then what is it?

It's necessary but not sufficient.

It's sufficient but not necessary.

Reasoning:

If you're coding, that counts as working. But if you're working, that doesn't mean that you are coding.

Obviously yours works too though (You have to do some programming, but you also have to do other things).

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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There are multiple ways of solving a problem and sometimes more code isn't the answer. Taking a few days to properly analyse a problem, examine the existing codebase and weigh up various alternatives is vastly superior to going in guns blazing and creating a giant mess in the process.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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I write better non-trivial code when I get up and get away from the screen for a while. Go do something else to get my mind off it. Even sleep on it. Then the insights creep in. Hammering away at a hard problem usually makes a big mess. Sometimes three quarters of my time is spent understanding the requirements, negotiating the solution, researching, talking through the design.

> Hammering away at a hard problem usually makes a big mess How can this be? Did you never learn how to use source control? Coding is the best way to explore the solution space, doesn't mean you use whatever you write right now.

Code forces you to solve all the details. If (you think) you're close to a solution, sure, then yes, hammering away is a good thing.

But if you're still at the big picture level, code is a horrible way to express that. It inevitably takes you into the weeds.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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I'm burnt out.

I've been on sick leave for over half a year now. Luckily I am in a country where I am protected, but I'm receiving less salary as the law indicates. I'm trying to focus on the good things in life. In my downtime from work I've tried to start a few personal projects, but I just can't seem to stick with it and I end up just playing video games all day. I just wanna crawl into the fetal position and die sometimes. I've often contemplated suicide but I know it's not the way out and it'll hurt the people who love me more than it will help me. I haven't told anyone the last part yet, including my therapist. I know I'll never make that move, but it has been on my mind.

I'm working 2 half days a week now, and it's hard. Therapy helps, even if it's just someone I can talk to without judgement, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to stop soon because it's costing me too much. Unfortunately the waiting list for therapy covered by insurance is extremely long.

Covid was part of the problem. Because of it, we just got more work and longer hours and I was given some high stress projects and clients that were way beyond my capacity. Couple that with WFH and a bunch of other personal things that happened, I got a burn out. Without going into details, I feel my employer failed to protect me and our relationship has soured. I want to quit and find a new job, but because of my situation I can't just start a new job and work 40 hours again. OTOH continuing where I work now is just causing me more and more stress and anxiety I'm also underpaid for my level, and on top of that I'm only earning 70% because of my sick leave. Rock and a hard place and all that.

I'm lucky to have my partner, she tries to be understanding but she's also had a tough year.

Anyway, that's why I'm not coding.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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I'm burnt out. I've been on sick leave for over half a year now. Luckily I am in a country where I am protected, but I'm receiving less salary as the law indicates. I'm trying to focus on the good things in life. In my downtime from work I've tried to start a few personal projects, but I just can't seem to stick with it and I end up just playing video games all day. I just wanna crawl into the fetal position and die…

I know this isn't Reddit, but... virtual hugs

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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Good point, happened to me today. The UI requirements to my ticket didn't make sense. The changes the other dev wanted would have took us possible days. I was hesitant to start, so I asked another dev... He said something totally different, he kept referring to something the designer wanted, but it didn't make sense to me, either. I called the designer and she told me she never said that and we agreed on something el…

Keep communicating with everyone, and you may lead this team in 6 months.

Well, make sure that's actually wanted before jumping into assumptions.

I had the misfortune of assuming people want to communicate more in order to avoid miscommunication but it turned out that the team (~5 developers in a ~15 person company) actually wanted more walls around them, minimize communication and focus on silo'd development (one frontend, one backend, one ios, one android and one infrastructure with 0 sharing of tasks even if one was behind/in front) with as little communication between devs and others in the company as possible. Only the person dedicated for communication should do the communication.

I didn't agree with this so I no longer work there, but there was a few months of pain because I assumed everyone wanted to communicate but didn't have the experience/tools/processes to do so. I was wrong, which took time to discover as I assumed everyone wanted agile collaboration.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't you coding?

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Because I've realized that for the things I want and need to build, I would be an order of magnitude too slow to go alone.

I rarely write any code myself these days (and when I do, I make sure I'm not doing that in any critical path of the company).

Barely just enough to stay sharp to remain an effective tiebreaker and stay respected by a highly capable team.

Mostly prototypes, tracer bullets, idea scribbles and PoCs.

Other than that, I focus mostly on distributing knowledge, connecting the dots and lay the tracks forward to make sure we as a team build something that creates value for the company and doesn't have to be thrown away.

Writing more code myself would be a dire waste of company resources.

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