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The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by LaF0rge »

phildenhoff wrote: post #10

If you manage a website like this, I implore you to spend an hour and think about someones first-time experience when they land on your site. - The logo goes to the homepage - the "gpl-violations.org" link goes to the homepage - the page title goes to the homepage - About describes the goal of the project and who's behind it, but not how to access the project... or if that's even a thing. - The GPL page lists the GPL…

If you have so many comments, why raise it here and not mail the contact stated at the website? Do you think it is more productive in effecting a change to only post this here, rather than to whoever is responsible?

Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by that_guy_iain »

So the website states it's not very well maintained. Last news post was 2016, it's actually not maintained instead of poorly maintained. The mailing list where I thought there would be action between the people behind the project was shut down because of a lack of resources.

Honestly, there doesn't seem much point in this website at all. It seems like a dead project.

Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by syockit »

LaF0rge wrote: post #21
phildenhoff wrote: post #10

If you manage a website like this, I implore you to spend an hour and think about someones first-time experience when they land on your site. - The logo goes to the homepage - the "gpl-violations.org" link goes to the homepage - the page title goes to the homepage - About describes the goal of the project and who's behind it, but not how to access the project... or if that's even a thing. - The GPL page lists the GPL…

If you have so many comments, why raise it here and not mail the contact stated at the website? Do you think it is more productive in effecting a change to only post this here, rather than to whoever is responsible?

The answer is in the first sentence

> If you manage a website like this

So it is and advice to whoever manages this kind of website, not just the webmaster of GPL-violations.org

Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by riedel »

john_moscow wrote: post #13
phildenhoff wrote: post #10

If you manage a website like this, I implore you to spend an hour and think about someones first-time experience when they land on your site. - The logo goes to the homepage - the "gpl-violations.org" link goes to the homepage - the page title goes to the homepage - About describes the goal of the project and who's behind it, but not how to access the project... or if that's even a thing. - The GPL page lists the GPL…

Last entry in the news section is from 2016. Looks dead in the water to me.

I guess laforge is doing other things atm, but i guess he at least hasn't called it dead: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/projects/license-compliance/

Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by thih9 »

ISL wrote: post #18
phildenhoff wrote: post #10

If you manage a website like this, I implore you to spend an hour and think about someones first-time experience when they land on your site. - The logo goes to the homepage - the "gpl-violations.org" link goes to the homepage - the page title goes to the homepage - About describes the goal of the project and who's behind it, but not how to access the project... or if that's even a thing. - The GPL page lists the GPL…

My expectation from the URL would have been better served by a perpetually-maintained static html page enumerating GPL violators.

I think they intentionally avoid it, see FAQ:

> Beware the "public shaming" bomb. It's easy to let off, but very hard to defuse if you made a mistake or the issue turned out to be minor and is rapidly resolved.

[1]: http://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq/

Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by craigsmansion »

riedel wrote: post #24
john_moscow wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last entry in the news section is from 2016. Looks dead in the water to me.

I guess laforge is doing other things atm, but i guess he at least hasn't called it dead: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/projects/license-compliance/

> I guess laforge is doing other things atm

Yes. Judging by the reactions here I think most commenters are unfamiliar with Harald Welte, prolific Free Software hacker and one-man GPL defender.

For all the noise out of kernel hackers about doing their own enforcement if needed, so any copyright assignment is not necessary, Harald is one of the very few who actually went through the trouble of doing something to keep the kernel GPL instead of "GPL as lipservice, BSD in practice."

You'd think the Linux Foundation would be all over this, but it looks like they prefer to keep the gravy train rolling (https://www.linuxfoundation.org/join/members/).

Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by lmm »

m463 wrote: post #16

What I'd like to know is - do they talk to the authors first?

Yes, they're only able to send notifications if they have an author's copyright to enforce (for a long time it was only Busybox that actually enforced their copyright this way).

Re: The GPL-Violations.org Project (2016)

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Post by bawolff »

LaF0rge wrote: post #21
phildenhoff wrote: post #10

If you manage a website like this, I implore you to spend an hour and think about someones first-time experience when they land on your site. - The logo goes to the homepage - the "gpl-violations.org" link goes to the homepage - the page title goes to the homepage - About describes the goal of the project and who's behind it, but not how to access the project... or if that's even a thing. - The GPL page lists the GPL…

If you have so many comments, why raise it here and not mail the contact stated at the website? Do you think it is more productive in effecting a change to only post this here, rather than to whoever is responsible?

Its a forum. The entire point is to post and discuss things, not to fix the world. If we wanted to do that we would be fixing the world instead of reading hacker news.
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