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The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by yeetawayhn »

dragonwriter wrote: post #130
dcolkitt wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are 90,000 Asian Americans in Oklahoma. There are over a million in Texas. And more than half a million in Florida. Certainly enough for a pre-mediated act of political terrorism to find a target. You're constructing a false dichotomy where you assume all Red counties are rural, white, and low-population. That's definitely not true outside the coastal states. If the trend is being primarily driven by Republican…

> There are 90,000 Asian Americans in Oklahoma There's about 300,000 in the City of San Francisco. Heck, there's more of both Asians and Trump supporters in California than any red state, and probably far more of both in just red counties in California than in Oklahoma. > You're constructing a false dichotomy where you assume all Red counties are rural, white, and low-population. No, you’re constructing a dichotomy w…

Antoine Watson

Yahya Muslim

Yep, definitely sounds like average Trump supporter names...

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by babesh »

rexpop wrote: post #140
babesh wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your two opinions contradict each other. On the one hand, you say you are for illegal immigration but on the other you are against the H1-B program. Those anti union, anti local workers as you call them are coming in via illegal immigration if you get your way. There are many powers besides tech: Wall Street, government, education, medical, military industrial complex, intelligence services, law, media, energy, etc..…

> anti union, anti local workers as you call them are coming in via illegal immigration No they're not. What makes you think that? I have worked in the tech industry all my adult life, and worked closely with countless H1-B holders and they have all, as a rule, been egregiously anti workers-rights, elitist, chauvinistic, misogynistic, and racist; with _few_ exceptions. I see no reason to assume the same of a differen…

First you presumed that I gentrified those neighborhoods when I did not. Now you fail to address the logic of my point about your contradictory views. Then you shift the goalpost from tech to all powers. Then you presume that I ignore systemic prejudice. Lastly your argument relies on the religion that everything is due to systemic prejudice.

If you were to look at actual facts, the picture is far more complex than your Disneyland view of the world. Go look at achievement rates or ethnic groups by generation from immigration. Go look at who from those ethnic groups immigrated. Go look at education levels of Nigerian-Americans. Go look at effects of poverty and cycles of poverty and how discrimination drove poverty. Go look at the rapidly increasing income of Latinos.

Your argument is strongly reminiscent of the political Disneyland as described in https://waitbutwhy.com/2019/12/political-disney-world.html. Everybody is either all good or all bad. Things are binary.

Good bye. Feel free to live in your own Disneyland.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by bordercases »

kibwen wrote: post #46
gautamcgoel wrote: post #8

Indian-American here. One thing I often find irritating about the phrase "Asian-American" is that it's usually used to refer to people with East Asian heritage (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, etc). Somehow people with South Asian heritage, like myself, often aren't included in that category, to the point that my girlfriend was surprised to hear that Indian-Americans count as Asian-American.

I think this is a symptom of the continent of Asia being so extremely large and diverse. To wit, every definition of Asia also includes the Arabian Peninsula, but most people would probably not intuitively classify Arab Americans as Asian Americans. The appropriation of "Asian American" to almost universally mean "East Asian Americans" is probably due to the lack of a specific, pre-existing demonym to describe people…

India is considered its own subcontinent - by every definition. It features a lot of diversity in its own right.

The land bridge from Alaska into Russia means Americans are Asians.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by rexpop »

babesh wrote: post #142
rexpop wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> anti union, anti local workers as you call them are coming in via illegal immigration No they're not. What makes you think that? I have worked in the tech industry all my adult life, and worked closely with countless H1-B holders and they have all, as a rule, been egregiously anti workers-rights, elitist, chauvinistic, misogynistic, and racist; with _few_ exceptions. I see no reason to assume the same of a differen…

First you presumed that I gentrified those neighborhoods when I did not. Now you fail to address the logic of my point about your contradictory views. Then you shift the goalpost from tech to all powers. Then you presume that I ignore systemic prejudice. Lastly your argument relies on the religion that everything is due to systemic prejudice. If you were to look at actual facts, the picture is far more complex than y…

What do you hope to gain by denigrating my position as lacking "actual facts"? I don't see you having brought much to the table. This is the end of the discussion, for you? You simply call me delusional and walk away? We have to live on this planet, you know.

I suppose the only difference between the two of us is that you're buying a gun with the explicit purpose of killing Black people.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by throwawaygulf »

nexthash wrote: post #76
calvinmorrison wrote: post #65

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I think you're misinformed. People use hollow points to reduce over-penetration that occurs with a FMJ bullet

Do you really think the type of bullet matters? A bullet is a projectile whose sole purpose is to penetrate the human body at subsonic or supersonic speeds. The original commenter was advocating for carrying and using weapons that fire these bullets against innocent people. To me that's just depravity.

>Do you really think the type of bullet matters?

We don't think, we know.

>A bullet is a projectile whose sole purpose is to penetrate the human body at subsonic or supersonic speeds.

Not even remotely true. There are bullets whose sole purpose is to penetrate paper targets accurately.

>The original commenter was advocating for carrying and using weapons that fire these bullets against innocent people.

Wrong, it was advocacy for carrying and using weapons that fire bullets against guilty felons.

>To me that's just depravity.

To those based in reality, it's a right to self-defense.

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