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Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by rcstank »

mhh__ wrote: post #294
ryandrake wrote: post #240

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Back in the early 2000s I worked at a company where we did a fun “Bring Your Gun to Work day” on Wednesdays. Instead of going to a restaurant at lunchtime we went to the shooting range instead. Was a really popular activity, probably 1/3 of the office participated. Some people brought several guns to try. Good times! Could never do this these days in Silicon Valley though :(

Honestly I would rather there wasn't a "bring a lethal weapon" to work day. How very American. If you want to go down to the range after-work, by all means do so, but the way you Americans trivialise a toy good for nothing but war in many cases is really fascinating.

Trivialize is probably not the right word. Exercising our right to bare arms is built into our constitution.

Firearms are most definitely not toys. A bring your gun to work day is a way for coworkers to bond outside of work as well as a great learning experience for the ones without much knowledge on how to safely and responsibly handle a firearm. It’s also a lot of fun shooting targets.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by pluto9 »

mhh__ wrote: post #296
arkitaip wrote: post #103

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HN is much more conservative and libertarian than you might think.

E.g. criticise the Orangeman and watch the downvotes pour in. Criticise his opponents, or have some contrarian defence of him, not much happens.

I don't doubt that you've seen examples of that, but I've seen plenty that go the other way. Heavily downvoted comments that are only slightly defensive of him, and others that rise to the top for bashing him when it isn't even relevant to the conversation. It really depends on the thread. Different topics attract different crowds.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by rayhendricks »

mhh__ wrote: post #298
Vecr wrote: post #297

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That's not correct, if you want a rifled barrel, you do need to electro-machine it, and you might want some airsoft parts, but everything else is bolts and printed parts.

What? Unless things have improved a lot since I last checked all the designs for fully 3D printed guns I could find were one used affairs.

3D printed firearms have drastically improved in the last couple years. Here is a 3D printed glock https://ctrlpew.com/freemans-g26-3d-printable-glock-frame-di..., there are also 3D printed ar/ak lowers.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by nucleardog »

calyth2018 wrote: post #176
gambiting wrote: post #171

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>>There is a large overlap between any serious engineering discipline and firearms enthusiasts. Again, surely you mean in the US ? All engineers I have ever worked with or met are almost the exact opposite of this. IMHO ;-)

Canadian. I think it's interesting. Canada buy some stuff from Colt Canada, apparently, occasionally require designs to be manufacturered by Colt Canada for service rifles, such as the one used by the Rangers in the North. If CZ ends up picking up Colt Canada too, seems like they'd be in good hands.

They did. The purchase was of Colt Holdings which is the parent of both Colt USA and Colt Canada.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by tluyben2 »

mhh__ wrote: post #296
arkitaip wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is much more conservative and libertarian than you might think.

E.g. criticise the Orangeman and watch the downvotes pour in. Criticise his opponents, or have some contrarian defence of him, not much happens.

I saw a lot of downvotes and defenses like you say, but the down votes, as far as I have seen, were on rants or reddit type blurbs about Trump which people do not like here. And the defenses were well thought out. Anyway that is what I have seen; i started checking because I thought it weird there are so many Trump supporters on here (might still be the case: as eu person I also find it strange there are a fair amount religious people on here; I do not mind, I am just curious to things I do not expect to find).

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by sushisource »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #264
sushisource wrote: post #257

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> Finally, the idea of "banning" guns -- which every basically qualified engineer or physicist should be capable to building from readily available materials and tools -- makes them even more interesting. If for no other reason than to illuminate preposterous and insulting nature of the idea. This makes no sense. Assaulting someone is illegal, but anyone can do it. It's still illegal. What?

Hurting someone is malum in se whereas owning guns is malum prohibitum when prohibited. This is the relevant distinction.

That's a cop out. Literally all of our laws exist because some portion of the population are shitheads who can't be trusted. Who cares if the thing we're banning is intrinsically bad or not. Phrasing it in Latin doesn't make it any more compelling either.

We also ban nuclear and biological weapons for good reason. Does it really matter that they are harder to obtain? (Tip: They won't be in the long run, there was a time when guns were hard to make too).

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

sushisource wrote: post #306
chordalkeyboard wrote: post #264

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Hurting someone is malum in se whereas owning guns is malum prohibitum when prohibited. This is the relevant distinction.

That's a cop out. Literally all of our laws exist because some portion of the population are shitheads who can't be trusted. Who cares if the thing we're banning is intrinsically bad or not. Phrasing it in Latin doesn't make it any more compelling either. We also ban nuclear and biological weapons for good reason. Does it really matter that they are harder to obtain? (Tip: They won't be in the long run, there was a t…

> Who cares if the thing we're banning is intrinsically bad or not.

I’m sure you would care if the thing we’re banning is something you like that doesn’t hurt anyone.

> We also ban nuclear and biological weapons for good reason.

Do we? I thought we built them and kept them ready to use.

> Phrasing it in Latin doesn't make it any more compelling either.

Those are legal terms because actual judges, lawyers, law enforcement officers, and others have discussed this extensively and determined that the distinction is relevant.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by CapricornNoble »

sofixa wrote: post #232
nickthemagicman wrote: post #220

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Yeah a good part of the reason those countries aren't Chinese, German, or Russian provinces right now is America.

Citation needed. If anything, a lot of nations were subjugated with the help of or by the US.

>>>Citation needed.

Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_NATO

or here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by yoz-y »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #220
yoz-y wrote: post #86

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There are a lot of countries where the populace isn't generally armed and they are doing just fine. It's not like America is the only free country out there.

Yeah a good part of the reason those countries aren't Chinese, German, or Russian provinces right now is America.

If I recall correctly it was not the armed civilians that disembarked in Normandy.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by cinntaile »

mallomarmeasle wrote: post #56
cinntaile wrote: post #34

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But FN is a Belgian gun manufacturer, how does this relate to CZG from the Czech Republic?

As pointed out downthread, Colt lost military contracts to FN, decreasing stock value

That makes sense, thanks for the clarification.
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