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Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by DrJones1098 »

yellowapple wrote: post #115
nickthemagicman wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Western democracy wouldn't exist without citizens who were armed to the teeth. Do you think the monarchys would have happily and peacefully turned over their power because of the power of love? Because someone said please sir?

And to expand on this, there's a reason why even Karl Marx understood the necessity of an armed working class: "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."

That's awesome. Did not know that about Marx.

Any educated person who looks at cumulative human history can see this.

History as a rule is filled with subjugation by the powerful for thousands upon thousands of years.

There's the argument that policy cant reduce inequality, only plague, revolution, war, and state collapse, have ever reduced this.

What we have now in modern America is an anomoly... and if one looks carefully at the growing inequality...we're moving back towards equilibrium.

Wish history was taught better in schools.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by aksss »

yellowapple wrote: post #91
bluedino wrote: post #23

Better than Remington’s fate: being bought out by Cerebus

A bummer that the Navajo Nation didn't buy 'em.

That would have been interesting for many, many reasons, the poetry of which being the least interesting. They're a sovereign nation so what happens when you manufacture guns in Indian country? How beholden are you to the BATF's regs, assuming you build with the intention of the firearm never leaving the res?

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by mikecoles »

lutoma wrote: post #102

Honest question: How is this relevant to Hacker News? As a non-American i was rather bewildered to find this here. Is there a serious overlap between gun enthusiasts and the IT community in the US?

Microcontrollers to webapps. Security and networking in between.

The prior things pay the bills. Guns are for pleasure. Long range shooting beats meditation and yoga.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx »

nostrademons wrote: post #93
jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An ICBM hitting a target purely on internal guidance is an entirely different level of problem from what SpaceX is doing with cooperative positioning systems at the target. Also keep in mind that the "wikipedia numbers" for classified weapons systems are usually "at least" numbers, not exact. It's not at all clear who has more data between GOOG and NSA. Both don't exactly declare the numbers, but it is known that in…

"in several recent years NSA has been the largest single buyer of spinning disks in the world." The rest of the world moved to SSDs in ~2010. Google's been storing the whole web on flash since then. (I guess if you're archiving for slow-speed retrieval disks are still useful, but if that's your use-case, why wouldn't you use tape?)

I wasn't really trying to get into some sort of debate about storage technologies, just illustrating that the NSA does have a whole lot of data.

Spinning disk is cost competitive with tape robots these days, while offering much better access performance. There's a few different vendors that supply this sort of setup, or you can build your own backblaze style. The core idea is you build storage servers that can hold more disks than can be active at any given moment. Powering up a drive and doing a seek is a lot faster than a tape robot.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by hoppla »

mmaunder wrote: post #24
floren wrote: post #2

CZ makes damn fine guns, so this seems like one of the better outcomes--better than being bought by a maker of crap who wishes to apply a veneer of respectability through the Colt name.

Indeed. Their 17 HMR with varmint barrel is a whole lot of fun and really accurate. (Same caliber as a BB gun but with a lot more powder, in case you’re not a gun geek)

Got a CZ455 varmint with interchangeable 22LR and 17HMR barrels. Good for practice shooting and hunting small game. The weight of the rifle also gives me good training as it’s heavy as my bigger 308 rifle (Sauer 202).

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by m0ngr31 »

aksss wrote: post #142
yellowapple wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bummer that the Navajo Nation didn't buy 'em.

That would have been interesting for many, many reasons, the poetry of which being the least interesting. They're a sovereign nation so what happens when you manufacture guns in Indian country? How beholden are you to the BATF's regs, assuming you build with the intention of the firearm never leaving the res?

That is an interesting question... Not sure what the answer would be. But I'm pretty sure they are still under federal law, just not individual states. So probably personal manufacturing fine, for sale (even on the res) would require an FFL.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by da_big_ghey »

Spooky23 wrote: post #110
rayiner wrote: post #46

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Monthly gun sales have about tripled since 2000, and we had a lot of guns even back then: https://www.google.com/search?q=gun+sales+per+year&client=sa... As to regulatory changes: support for a handgun ban is the lowest its been since Gallup started tracking the statistic in 1959: https://news.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun... . It's just 26% today, versus 60% in 1959. Unlike with tobacco, there's no…

Even smartphone demand slows down. And that's a device with daily utility with a 2-5 year life. Seriously, I'm coming at this from a perspective of a country boy who went shooting 3-4 times a month as a teen, and earned a bounty for shooting pigeons on a farm. How much more demand can be filled for more guns the mostly sit around and gather dust? It's a market driven by ignorance and fear -- folks are treating these…

Population continues to grow, and there are many Americans who don't own guns who represent a big market. Many have purchased their first in the past year. And yes, lots of people like collecting a shooting a wide variety of guns. Most of then do it for reasons other than or in addition to prepping. The new firearms market is not going to die; the idea that it will is fudd nonsense.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by foofoo4u »

lutoma wrote: post #102

Honest question: How is this relevant to Hacker News? As a non-American i was rather bewildered to find this here. Is there a serious overlap between gun enthusiasts and the IT community in the US?

I do think there is a large overlap with American IT workers and gun enthusiasts. I happen to be one of them. But I do agree with your comment. As much as I may find the topic "Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt" interesting, I believe it does not belong on Hacker News. Little by little Hacker News is turning into reddit. There is a reason why I come here and not reddit. The mods should take this post down to ensure the integrity of Hackers News.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by m0ngr31 »

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #134
throwawaysea wrote: post #98

Can someone more familiar with this world explain where the law ended up on building your own guns? I recall a controversy around whether you can even share open source 3D printing plans (which to me felt like a violation of the first amendment) but leaving that aside, I've also heard that it is possible to do so using more traditional methods.

I have a memory that around 10 years ago, Australia banned the very act of downloading and possessing 3-D files to make firearms. Theoretically, if your computer is seized and found to contain the SolidWorks files to make a Ruger, for example, you can be prosecuted. However I don't know that this was enacted into national law or later struck down. A man in Queensland was given a suspended sentence for printing parts…

Well it'd be almost impossible to sneak brass or steel cased cartridges through a metal detector (also the copper jacket on the bullet itself). Not to mention that you need a metal firing pin to hit the primer.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by da_big_ghey »

1MoreThing wrote: post #104
rayiner wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What difference are those studies going to make? If Columbia University in the City of New York discovers you can use guns to kill people, are voters suddenly going to go "oh, well then!"

That's clearly not the kind of research that's going to be done. Funding of gun studies means we can make arguments backed up by data instead of partisan bickering. Calls to arm teachers in classrooms or mandate trigger locks on guns have real world effects, and both sides think they're right about it. Funding for studies of specific actions and policies help us as a society make more informed decisions. More info: h…

You will find that many of us gun rights supporters don't care what data comes out. I don't support 2a because fewer than n people die per year from guns.
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