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“I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
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Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the Marketplace quote is worth noting too: >A look at the terms for the Azure Marketplace throws up this sentence: "If you purchase or use a Marketplace Offering, we may share with the Publisher of such Offering your contact information and details about the transaction and your usage." So the publisher of something on their Marketplace gets some information. This doesn't seem 'that' weird (well the linked in…
You buy a dishwasher from Best Buy. They send your name and address to Maytag. You buy soap from Walmart. They send your name and address to Johnson & Johnson. You buy a sandwich at your local deli. They send your name and address to Boar’s Head. Cool?
The distinction here is when it’s a marketplace. You buy a product from a third-party vendor on Amazon. Amazon sends details of your purchase to the third-party vendor for fulfillment. Cool.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#133The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
Forgive me. It's Friday. What was the poor choice of word? I get that the whole concept is poor. But what word or words?
"I saw that you"
(did something that you didn't expect me to see)
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
What was purchased from Canonical?
An instance of Ubuntu from a pre-prepared image, in exchange for $0.00 and your contact details. The pre-prepared image part does perpetually have value - it saves you installing from a standard ISO and Azure-ifying the result, or having your own image pre-prepared from earlier. It is a short while since I last spun up a fresh VM in Azure so I'm can't remember if this arrangement is made clear at all, though I do rem…
If this is so common (or valuable), why am I not charged for an image of Ubuntu optimized for Docker when I pull it from Docker hub?
Or when I download the various usage-optimized ISOs from Canonical's own site?
This is exceptional, and in exceptionally poor taste.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#135The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
I wonder whether the LinkedIn profile of the customer was directly handed out to the Canonical by MS, because invite by email on LinkedIn cannot send 'custom invite message', Canonical Agent seems to have manually sent an invite with custom message which leaves us with two possibilities -
1. Agent had enough details at hand to confirm that the LinkedIn profile was indeed that of the customer.
2. Access to LinkedIn profile itself (e.g. profile URL).
If 2. how did MS make that association? AFAIK there's no mechanism for the user to connect LinkedIn profile to Azure or vice versa.
P.S. I know MS owns LinkedIn.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
And Canonical decided to take that data, search him on Linkedin and contact him. Seems reasonable to see that as a reason to loose respect for Canonical over.
Don't get me wrong, what Canonical has done here also isn't good. But what they've done shouldn't have been possible because Microsoft shouldn't have given Canonical the information in the first place.
The question I have is what's in it for Microsoft, why did they even bother to do this in the first place? I can't believe there would be that big of a cash incentive.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you really think Ubuntu doesn't already have similar agreements with other cloud providers...? Azure is a big fish. If they managed to get that, they definitely got smaller ones.
Then time to move off Ubuntu? I’ve been a big fan of it for a long time but it seems my servers will be moving to a BSD sooner rather than later.
Other good reasons to move away from Ubuntu:
* They show you ads on login
* They periodically phone home with: Ubuntu version, kernel version, architecture, CPU model, curl/wget version, cloud (if applicable; aws/openstack/...). This is part of the delivery system of the ads mentioned above. See /etc/update-motd.d/50-motd-news for the actual script.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
> * I would find this message to be a lot better - "We see that you've taken advantage of the Ubuntu image* No. That's not better at all. The mere fact that Canonical has specific information to reach me when I am not a direct customer of Canonical is a complete violation of my privacy. Ubuntu is a free product. Canonical should not be able to find out if I (specifically me or my organization) allocates or runs 1 or…
> Ubuntu is a free product. Canonical should not be able to find out if I (specifically me or my organization) allocates or runs 1 or 10000 instances of Ubuntu I agree with the message behind this and obviously Canonical and Microsoft are both being extremely gross. But Ubuntu as a binary image (or source code) is a very different product than a VM with Ubuntu pre-installed and pre-configured, which is what you paid…
If you go to Ubuntu's web site, they will offer several distinct ISOs, each optimized for different usecases; and yet I'm not charged all of my personal information there either.
Ditto the Ubuntu images on Docker Hub.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Ubuntu is a free product. Canonical should not be able to find out if I (specifically me or my organization) allocates or runs 1 or 10000 instances of Ubuntu I agree with the message behind this and obviously Canonical and Microsoft are both being extremely gross. But Ubuntu as a binary image (or source code) is a very different product than a VM with Ubuntu pre-installed and pre-configured, which is what you paid…
> But Ubuntu as a binary image (or source code) is a very different product than a VM with Ubuntu pre-installed. How? Why? If it's different in any meaningful way from just clicking "next" on the installer then it's no longer Ubuntu, and certainly not Canonical Ubuntu, that's pre-installed. It's become, at best, Microsoft-Ubuntu-Because-Microsoft-Added-Telemetry-For-Azure. Or it's Canoncical-Ubuntu-Configured-By-Micr…
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Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#140We all now know that with these guys you are the product. That's why I prefer Debian.