Microsoft I'd expect this from but what the heck was Canonical thinking??
“I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
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Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the Marketplace quote is worth noting too: >A look at the terms for the Azure Marketplace throws up this sentence: "If you purchase or use a Marketplace Offering, we may share with the Publisher of such Offering your contact information and details about the transaction and your usage." So the publisher of something on their Marketplace gets some information. This doesn't seem 'that' weird (well the linked in…
This is the real answer. I almost did the same thing but decided to spin up my own image instead of buying a prepacked one from the Marketplace.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#43My personal heroku account uses my personal email address, eg. jbob@gmail.com, but my enterprise account uses my full name, eg. jonathan.bob@bigco.com.
There's a sneaky CRM tool floating around that is connecting the dots on people.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#44All I see is, "JavaScript is not available."
Thanks for letting us know.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
You buy a dishwasher from Best Buy. They send your name and address to Maytag. You buy soap from Walmart. They send your name and address to Johnson & Johnson. You buy a sandwich at your local deli. They send your name and address to Boar’s Head. Cool?
> You buy a dishwasher from Best Buy. They send your name and address to Maytag. For warranty purposes of course > You buy soap from Walmart. They send your name and address to Johnson & Johnson. In case they need to recall the soap > You buy a sandwich at your local deli. They send your name and address to Boar’s Head. Cool? So you can get some cool Boar's Head swag! Just kidding of course. We need much better data…
I can’t even imagine what that might be. But technical support for my sandwich making needs would be fun. Kind of how Butterball (I think it’s them) has a help line on Thanksgiving for cooking turkeys. They made the news a few years ago by hiring men to work the phones because they learned that men cook more frequently now but feel uncomfortable asking women for advice. I had a good chuckle at that.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the Marketplace quote is worth noting too: >A look at the terms for the Azure Marketplace throws up this sentence: "If you purchase or use a Marketplace Offering, we may share with the Publisher of such Offering your contact information and details about the transaction and your usage." So the publisher of something on their Marketplace gets some information. This doesn't seem 'that' weird (well the linked in…
You buy a dishwasher from Best Buy. They send your name and address to Maytag. You buy soap from Walmart. They send your name and address to Johnson & Johnson. You buy a sandwich at your local deli. They send your name and address to Boar’s Head. Cool?
Since most appliance manufacturers require you registering your product with them for warranty service, yes, please take care of that for me (many appliance stores do). Now _should_ Maytag require that registration? If it makes for a quicker and smoother warranty service process then I'm okay with it - better than needing to dig up a receipt in three years, only to find that the thermal printing has faded.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow. I just lost a whole lot of respect for Canonical. “If you read the document we expect nobody to read, you’d know that you sold your soul to us. We didn’t mean for you to find that out but one of our salespeople got overeager and tried to sell you your soul back. He will be reprimanded. Can we all forget about this real quick?”
This was my first response as well (it's not the data sharing that's the problem, it's that you noticed). Thinking about it though, a lot of it is a question of surprise and unknowns. I would find this message to be a lot better - "We see that you've taken advantage of the Ubuntu image that Canonical provide in the Azure Marketplace. I am available to you for (etc.)".
No. That's not better at all.
The mere fact that Canonical has specific information to reach me when I am not a direct customer of Canonical is a complete violation of my privacy.
Ubuntu is a free product. Canonical should not be able to find out if I (specifically me or my organization) allocates or runs 1 or 10000 instances of Ubuntu.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#48The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
This is the last part of the Microsoft statement:
"Our terms with our publishers allow them to provide customers with implementation and technical support for their products but restricts them from using contact details for marketing purposes"
Canonical then tells us that this person was a Sales Representative, and it is clear from the content that this is a message aimed towards selling. Canonical has broken Microsoft's terms. That said, I can't see where that legal restriction is (e.g. can't see anything like that in https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/support/legal/marketplace-...).
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#49As someone who works in tech sales - the real bullshit here is that this is some right-out-of-college 22 y/o entry level sales person (SDR) who was likely told to to take this list and message everyone on linkedin 1x1. The negative impact of this goes on his shoulders where the positive responses from this get passed off to someone else who is outside the blast radius. Stuff like this is the norm when sales is viewed…
Well, in this case, people are mad at Azure/MS and Canonical for betraying developer trust, not the individual salesperson. He's just a pawn in the game. It's not like this guy went rogue; this is his job.
The system is setup in a creepy way to enable this type of upselling, which makes people uncomfortable. Whether or not Azure or Canonical change policies, we shall see.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#50Is it Azure sharing data, or the Ubuntu images phoning home? Edit: a comment here links to an article with more details. MS shares with Canonical. Bad on both parts I'd say, at least weird usage of the data.
Not if you purchase something from Canonical on MS's Marketplace. That's what marketplaces do.